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Yes, they have every right to be angry at the EU's indifference. Malta, Spain, Italy, Greece and bulgaria suffer disproportionately. This is an EU problem and it requires an EU solution

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 06:25:01 AM EST
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Are you arguing that Malta should be able to force France or the UK or any other country to receive immigrants (in according to a quota per country, or something) and to pay for coast guards and the like?

How would you size the quotas? To population? To size? To proximity to the immigrants' countries of origin? According to language they speak?

Just like the "we need to nuy gas jointly from Russia" - I want specifics, not generic "we should do this"...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 06:37:11 AM EST
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No, what I'm saying is that Malta's border, like those of bulgaria, Greece, Spain and Italy, is Europe's border. People who enter these countries from outside that border enter europe. So, it only makes sense that europe, as a body, make policy decisions about who comes in, why and how many. And what to do with those who can't.

And yes, if you like, a common border requiring a common policy requires a centrally funded border coastguard & police.

However, if you're asking me to determine the specifics of that common policy, then I'm gonna take the Obama defence; it's way, way above my pay-grade.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 08:15:55 AM EST
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I don't even have a pay grade, so I can speak...:  Hundreds of people have been arriving to the Canary Islands every week and I freeze with every report, as they show the cadavers under-water-on-board, how many were thrown along the way, how some arrive with their fingerprints burned off so they cannot be identified....  

It´s not the complaining, it´s the desperate need of the rest of the world next door.  

First of all, EU Justice should be investigating the mafias involved and blanking NATO should be finding the reported ´mother ship´ that drops off the boats, instead of covering the USass in Afghanistan, but there doesn´t  seem to be enough interest in ´just a southern problem´.

The lives lost are priceless and so are the social costs, but the maintenance, deportation, job creation in the countries of origin, etc. do have a measurable price and I bet non-profits could tell us!

Now that we have the Shame Directive and some countries are willing to pay privateers to ´store´ people up to 18 months, I don´t even want to know how much cheaper it would be to create a job at the source.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 03:34:26 PM EST
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(how much cheaper it would be to simply give 500€ a month to every immigrant. Probably cheaper than the boatloads of money spent erecting fortress Europe, chasing those found within, etc...)

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 04:03:52 PM EST
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Just to put things in scale : because of the absurd, racist-baiting policies about refusing to give papers, the various French social systems may lose up to 5 billion euros because of non-declared employment. The cost of the security apparatus set up to send away 25000 illegals a year (including a few thousands Roms from the Balkans paid a few hundred euros so that they'll cross the French border and be included in the statistics) is around 500 million euros, itself. (source)

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 04:14:26 PM EST
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