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On immigration and the southern strategy I agree.  But tell me how that enters into his condemnation of Scheunemman and the McCain campaign over Georgia.  How does that discredit his comments for McCain supporters?  If he provides ammunition in their terms and uses it against them, how does that hurt Democrats?  Geez, even when an opponent says something helpful to you, you discredit it on ad homenus grounds?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:24:33 PM EST
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Because he is very probably antisemitic as well. For the left the charges that racism is at the root of their opposition to the neocon policies are almost always groundless. For the hard right it's a different story.

A second reason is that even if that weren't the case, I do not want to give scum like Buchanan any credibility. Just like I wouldn't approvingly cite the Daniel Pipes of the world even if they happened to say something I agreed with. I want racists thoroughly marginalized.

by MarekNYC on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:52:52 PM EST
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It is not necessary to approve of the person or what he stands for in order to use his statements for your benefit.  I know that those who were born after, say 1965, would really like to fast forward past all of the nastiness of the "culture war" creation of the right wing.  So would I.  It is total bullshit.  But it has been effective.  Buchanan was there at the creation of this noxious meme.  To use him to undermine one of the great pillars of the neo-cons is highly appropriate from my point of view.

If you get sprayed with shit, you don't slink off and hide in shame!  You take a shower, change your clothes and get back in the fight.  It is not a question of whether the means justify the ends.  Could one have cited a Nazi to bring down Hitler in 1934, regardless of how vile that Nazi was, and one refused to do so because they feared legitimizing that person, what would be the moral content of that decision?  Means are only justifiable in terms of the ends they produce.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:08:55 PM EST
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So basically you think it makes sense to use the neocons against the Buchanans and vice versa?
by MarekNYC on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:22:46 PM EST
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Why not?  Is it immoral to seize on divisions within the enemy camp?  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:53:36 PM EST
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