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Organic food has a firm place in the Danish food supply - thought to judge by the range of products on offer in my local shops, it's limited to dairy products, eggs and the very occasional chicken and piece of pork.

My dad (who buys organic food almost religiously) has a theory on why sales are dropping: He thinks it has to do with the fact that organic food is increasingly just as bland as non-organic. For a while, before the factory farms started jumping on the organic bandwagon, organic food was simply higher quality, quite irrespective of the environmental concerns. And people pay for higher quality.

But the big food producers misinterpreted the willingness to pay as a willingness to pay for organic food rather than quality food and started mass-producing the same old crap, but now without pesticides. Which is a definite improvement environment-wise... but not so much in terms of the quality of the end product.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:04:29 PM EST
Yup. I'm one of those who has been buying organic for a long time, but for taste. For certain products the high end non-organic is actually better, at least than what's available to me, e.g. dry aged prime beef. In other cases, like milk, my local stores only carry the ultra-pasteurized crap in the organic version, and that's sort of defeating the purpose - why pay twice the price for much worse taste.
by MarekNYC on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:09:25 PM EST
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my experience says that it's more about the aging process than about the 'mottling'. You may know that I live in a rural setting. I buy organic beef from a couple of wonderful 'old-folks' (rock-ribbed Christian conservatives of the type that are so far right that they're almost left). I can go see the steers and cows grazing the manure-fed grass at any time. They may get a little grain in the Winter, but not by force-feeding. In fact the fat content is lower than you might think optimal for taste. But the beef tastes like the beef that I had in Texas as a young'un and college student. I may not be able to convince you that that was the real deal back then, but it was the baseline for me; and I've never had a steak since - be it ever so expensive - that beat the common product back then.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Aug 30th, 2008 at 01:40:53 AM EST
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Well, here the organic focus is very much on vegetables and fruits. But especially organic tomatoes can be just as bland as the others. So your dad has a point there.

I was also wondering, were does all this organic food come from? and have been asking myself also if it really is all as organic as we think.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:12:19 PM EST
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Because the tasteless tomato is a cultivar that was developed by traditional methods for the purpose of storing and transporting well and having a thick skin that won't tear as easily as that of a tasty tomato. Blandness has nothing to do with growing practices in that case.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:24:02 PM EST
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Yeah, tomatoes with taste don't travel. You either eat the great local ones in season, or the ok horrendously expensive local greenhouse ones the rest of the year. Quick tip - for most cooking purposes good canned tomatoes are fine, better in fact than anything but good fresh in season ones. The Italian San Marzano ones are the best, and they're not that expensive (about $3 for a 28oz can here in NYC)
by MarekNYC on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:53:47 PM EST
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I buy more canned peeled tomatoes and crushed/diced tomatoes than Barbara thinks our pantry can cope with...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 02:48:19 PM EST
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What's a pantry? (as he glances down from his desk at the cans of tomatoes on the bedroom floor, next to the mandoline and pasta thingy, and wine)
by MarekNYC on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 02:56:49 PM EST
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I exaggerate slightly - I'm talking about the low cabinet next to the sink, full of pasta, pulses, canned tomato, canned tuna...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 03:01:58 PM EST
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i heard italy exports 60% of its organic produce.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 03:33:05 PM EST
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