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That's something I'm curious about.

Is lactose intolerance primarily an allergy to cow's milk ? As melo points out, we're not supposed to drink that at all. Or is it an allergy to all milks such as, say, goats milk which is supposedly okay for humans.

That said, I'm okay. I can eat more or less anything. Anything I avoid is by preference or disgust (especially oysters)

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 01:49:35 PM EST
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We're not "supposed" to brew beer either.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 01:50:30 PM EST
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Shocked into silence.... ;-)

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 02:19:29 PM EST
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Only if the licencing authorities catch you. And technically it's the yeast wot done it anyway.

And yes, we're all slightly intolerant of alcohol. Being sick from drinking too much as a youngster is because the stomach doesn't want that much alcohol in it at once, stopping being sick is a "learned" reaction.

But drinking booze is pretty much elective these days.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 02:21:15 PM EST
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We've heard of people being old to stop breastfeeding and put their kids on special formula because the kids were lactose intolerant. Don't know what that is about ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 01:52:22 PM EST
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"being told"
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 01:52:38 PM EST
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That's a good question about cow's milk.  A person can't be intolerant (which I understand now means "lacking the enzyme required to break it down") to all milk, since most humans survive off human milk for the first months of their lives.  Is there no lactose in breast milk?  And how did we come to be drinking cow's milk?  


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by poemless on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 02:00:40 PM EST
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Dogs can handle cow's milk when they're puppies, but after that most just vomit it back up - Figgy will drink low-fat milk, Cleo won't touch it. If Figgy accidentially drinks full-fat he makes a mess.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 03:11:44 PM EST
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My cat drinks cow's milk (skim, in tiny amounts).  Doesn't seem to be a problem.  Unless I refuse it to her.  Then there's a problem.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 03:24:54 PM EST
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hmm, a visitor left a litre of milk in my fridge, so rather than throw it away, i poured it over my dogs' food.

one did fine, but the other was sick for a week.

lost appetite, moped around, no energy.

gave her some kidney tincture, encouraged her to drink more water, and with extra affection and massage, she came around fine, as per.

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 03:35:04 PM EST
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I have always been intolerant, I projectile vomited all forms of milk given to me as a baby - breast milk, formular, cows milk etc. It almost killed me.  It was only when I started on pureeed food that I was ok.

I have a genetic defect that prevents the enzyme being made, ever.  Most people make lactase that breaks down lactose when they are babies and this eases off as they grow older - hence why adults are more likely to be lactose intolerant.  As pointed out elsewhere, we aren't 'supposed' to have milk in our diets once weaned off breastfeeding therefore no need to keep making the enzyme.

How did we come to be eating or drinking anything that we do?!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 04:44:57 PM EST
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Lactose tolerance in adults is a rather recent genetic mutation. Evolution in action !

My guess is that some herdsmen discovered they could give raw milk without making cheese out of it to toddlers, and stopped giving it as the kids developed intolerance - until at a point the kids didn't develop intolerance, and gained an evolutionary advantage.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Aug 7th, 2008 at 04:12:46 AM EST
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Evolution in action !

Funnier yet: most probably co-evolution.

So, in societies where milk was really the only thing available during some periods, being lactose intolerant was strongly selected against (like: you might die).

by t-------------- on Thu Aug 7th, 2008 at 11:56:19 AM EST
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Most babies have no problem with lactose. It's something most people develop later, and seems to due to be some combination of genetics and environment. I presume that lactose intolerent people can't handle goat milk either (but maybe the amount of lactose is different?). The same probably also applies to giraffe milk, despite the recent decision that it is kosher.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 03:54:04 PM EST
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Good grief!  If cow's milk is meant to speed up the growing process for cows, what is giraffe milk capable of?!  


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 04:12:12 PM EST
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It isn't an allergy. The lactose cannot be broken down without the enzyme therefore it cannot be digested properly and so it loiters and causes grief, most commonly in the form of bloating, gassiness etc but more severe than that in some people.

It is the lactose in the milk that is specific to the problem and lactose is present in all mammal milk including goat etc.  The reason goats milk is thought to be ok for some people who can't have cow's milk is because these people are allergic to cows milk protein, which is not present in goats milk.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 at 04:49:19 PM EST
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