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Thanks George and Georgia.........

No, thanks America, including all the little chickenhawk fucks at places like dKos who think spreading our military personnel all over the world is awesome so long as the battles are the ones they want our soldiers to fight.

Team America: World's Police.  But what's not to like when it ain't you or your fucking kids with the RPGs pointed at'em?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:32:29 PM EST
Former Soviet Republic of Georgia.

Not peaches and praline Georgia.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:45:33 PM EST
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You don't say.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:48:04 PM EST
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I just did.

If Americans only knew what was going on, they wouldn't be so down with this.

The sad thing is that even if Obama is elected, this isn't going to change.

Obama had a problem with the Iraq War because he thought it was the wrong war.  Not because he though war is wrong.

That's an important difference lost on many of his supporters.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:52:16 PM EST
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If Americans only knew what was going on, they wouldn't be so down with this.

Americans aren't going to know what's going on, because we're involved in so much bullshit around the world that it's impossible to focus them on anything when these conflicts come up except waving flags and justifying anything on grounds of supporting the troops.  What exactly do you expect to happen when a society is built on the idea that its job is to manage the world's conflicts with force?

And you're right about Obama.  But at least he got it right on something instead of swallowing the Bush administration's collective load simply because they demanded it.  Unfortunately the disease is incredibly deep, and it's not helped by the fact that the left is only slightly less clueless on foreign affairs than the right.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:56:37 PM EST
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Obama had a problem with the Iraq War because he thought it was the wrong war.  Not because he though war is wrong.

That's an important difference lost on many of his supporters.

Lost on them? Or one they agree with?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 06:14:17 PM EST
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We are the country that brought the world the Chia pet, what do you expect?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 06:26:38 PM EST
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War and pouring money into War Toys has been good for business and the American people since 1940.  So I presume they "agree with."

Insert appropriate quote here
by ATinNM on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 06:31:24 PM EST
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... of Obama's policy as such, and supporters of some imagined Obama-the-pacifist-at-heart policy. And once it becomes a mass football game played with words, no telling which of the former and which of the latter sincerely mean it.

Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 08:09:11 PM EST
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You mean this isn't Jimmy Carter's fault?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:53:30 PM EST
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Everything's Jimmy Carter's fault unless it can be blamed on Bill Clinton.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 05:57:12 PM EST
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we watched Borat tonight. It's not great, but it has a few moments. One of these is when he makes a speech in the middle of the rodeo. First he thanks the US for running the "war of terror". Cheering. Then the boys for their service in Iraq. Loud cheering. Then the US for killing all terrorists. Loud cheering. Then Bush for getting blood on his hands to get the world rid of all muslims. Still cheering (just a tad less).

Then he goes on to sing the "Kazakh anthem" over the notes of the US anthem. Excpet that his words are basically: "Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world, and all others are shit". Then he starts getting seriously booed.

An amazing scene.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 06:18:58 PM EST
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Cheers.



And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 06:29:20 PM EST
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Yes, I know the scene you're talking about.  (I thought Borat was stupid and childish, personally, but I never found Sacha Baron Cohen funny.)  Powerful stupid.  But it makes my point that it's no surprise the dumbshits in this country can't focus on bettering their lives when they're so easily distracted by politicians firing their guns into the air.  And it's no surprise that, with the majority having accepted the idea that it's "our" job to go fuck about all over the planet, the politicians and their cronies have been able to loot trillions out the back door.

But at least boys can't get hitched outside of Massachusetts and California, so the Magical Space Daddy won't be upset.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 at 07:37:13 PM EST
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i liked that scene too, the best in an otherwise pretty stupid flick.

stupid + stupid makes for a good giggle!

"The question facing world leaders today is not what to do. It is whether to do it." James Galbraith

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Aug 10th, 2008 at 05:19:31 PM EST
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