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We are all (mostly) pro-life - nobody I know is happy about abortion. It is a practical solution, not a moral solution. And the medical and mental condition of the mother is paramount. I think most of us at ET would agree.

Where we might disagree, is in our attitudes to human-caused death, whether it's eating meat, putting down unwanted or suffering pets, or going to war in defence. Not to mention all the ways of dying on the road, at work etc in accidents - especially if they are caused by negligence.

Regarding Palin, I find it hard to accept pro-life and hunting as a combination, especially when pro-life is promoted as having religious origins. All god's creatures etc....

I find all sorts of conflicts in my own behaviour: I'll swat a mosquito, a wasp or a moth, but gingerly rescue any bee or butterfly that wanders in to my house. I still eat meat - even having filmed in abattoirs. I have never hunted, but I know countryside Finns who do and I respect their choice, though I don't agree with it. Hunting is strictly controlled in Finland - moose for instance are 'culled' ie in the hunting season permits are issued up to a certain number nationwide.

Death brings out the complicated moral skeins of all our lives.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 08:26:04 AM EST
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I'm happy about abortion. I don't consider aborting a tragic decision, or whatever else people like to call it. It's availability is a crucial, great, happy, wonderful tool of female control of their own fates. Sure, it is better when contraception is used and works properly and you don't need the inconvenience of a medical intervention. Abortion is to contraception like a getting a filling is to brushing your teeth. It's much nicer to keep up with good dental hygiene and not have your teeth drilled, but if it happens, it is hardly a disaster, and not a difficult dilema over which you agonize. So, abortion is like dental work, which I don't enjoy getting, but am sure glad exist if I should need it.

And for the foetus, and 'life': The removal from the human body of a small cluster of cells that would otherwise parasitically suckle life from that body for 9 months before it ruptures alien-like form the female nether-regions is hardly tragic, or problematic, or difficult, or anything else. I don't cry when my body on a monthly basis expels the unfertilized ovum along with the uterine wall. Why would I feel much different about a fertilized lump of cells, or a fish-like thing with gills swimming in amniotic fluid being removed? It is not a person. It does not have a developed sense of self, and no stake in its own life. And it most certainly has no right to claim my body for its nurishment.

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 08:47:52 AM EST
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Now I do know someone.

As I said - the physical and mental health of the women is paramount. It is your body - you do what you like with it. Same for me - as long as it doesn't impact on the health of someone else.

Thanks for sharing your view. I cannot share what it is like to be a woman,  but your view makes sense to me.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 08:58:08 AM EST
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