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I'd echo TBG on this, but add, the lefty blogosphere got totally played. The speculation about the Down's syndrome kid raised the ante just in time for this announcement to be a relative relief for the values voters.

Throw in the shotgun wedding and it's back on the trail for the Palin VP.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 01:42:04 PM EST
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Re: Bristol Palin (4.00 / 2)

It strikes me as a bit too convenient. The story I saw says she is 5 months pregnant, i.e., just long enough so that it is physiologically impossible for her to be the mother of the first kid, but short enough so that we won't find out if the "5 months" is the truth until after the election. Is there any reason to believe anything the McCain camp says? Of course, if they planted the internet story, they may have intentionally left the possibility I describe open as well.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 03:16:38 PM EST
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Not about a girl (4.00 / 6)

Ya know, I admit the speculation is very tempting, but not only does it not go anywhere, whatever the answer it doesn't prove anything cos she is not running for office; her mother is. I think this young teenager should be allowed to get on with her life without everybody talking and pointing fingers.

I, for one will not mention her name again. I'd like to hope others will do the same

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 03:51:08 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (4.00 / 2)

Well, it's not like there aren't plenty of other scandals around Palin.

And there's more where that came from.

Purely politically, Palin comes across as one of those control freak middle managers who turn up, stir things up with a dose of pointless drama, suck up to the higher ups, and are terminally useless at getting anything productive done.

I'm guessing it's going to be another bad week for McCain.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 04:28:40 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

I don't know if McCain can survive a really bad week, especially since this is convention week. He needs a bump out of that. Or at the very least he needs to drag Obama down. The consensus is now universal: Obama is in the very high 40s and may be headed into the fifties, while McCain's numbers are incredibly volatile and only getting into the mid-40s in Rasmussen's Likely Voter model.

He needs a good week.

If he has to throw Palin under the bus, he may well be dead.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 04:45:33 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (4.00 / 2)

And Palin has just hired a lawyer in Troopergate.

This is an absolute disaster for McCain.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:49:04 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (4.00 / 3)

Yea, but popcorn sales for democrats are gonna be through the roof this week as they settle down to truly enjoy the republican conflagration.

Palin, truly Sarah is funnier than Michael.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:55:26 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

I think if I were the Reps, I'd be nervous. With the Ron Paul people in town looking to rip up the GOP convention, and all the shit about Palin, this could be very, very bad.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 06:02:50 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 0)

Ahhhhhhhh Helen.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 06:33:42 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

He needs a bump you say.
A pregnancy bump?

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 04:49:22 AM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

And her address to the Alaska Independence Party. They claim that she was an AIP member, before she became mayor.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:13:05 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

Just out of interest, what is the difference between the AIP who wish to secede from the USA and those who fly the confederate flag, who celebrate those who seceeded previously and evidently still venerate values that are legally anti-american ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:28:02 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

Well, one could have good reasons not to want to be part of the U.S without being a pro-slavery racist. In practice, though, there always does seem to be a significant overlap between the two.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:31:05 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

There's always the Vermont independentists...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 05:05:40 AM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

The ones who fly the Confederate flag at least know that the fight is over. The South is part of the Union. The AIP still hopes to secede.

Again, Palin is insane. The evidence is mounting.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:50:01 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (4.00 / 2)

Again, Palin is insane. The evidence is mounting.

God, I love this place! LOL!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 06:37:09 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

The Alaska Independence Party has put a link to her address on its front page - right above a link to the Pravda article about them (I wonder why Pravda is so interested...)

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 02:28:44 AM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (4.00 / 2)

Here's another important point: Obama has, so far, successfully framed the election as being about the question of which candidate understands voters' problems. On that, 63% of voters say Obama gets it. Only 41% say McCain does, while 48% say he does not.

Obama played under the radar with his statewide ads and built a national message without us seeing it. McCain has to somehow counter that.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 at 05:17:32 PM EST
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Re: Not about a girl (none / 1)

Finally a voice of sanity...: she is not running for office; her mother is. I think this young teenager should be allowed to get on with her life

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 at 05:04:16 AM EST
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