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Still have to contend with WaMu, though, and I think it's reasonable to suggest it's only a matter of time there.  That's a big one.

I'm a little concerned about Wachovia as well.  Probably pulling my money out of it this week.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:08:33 PM EST
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Ain't bin no injuns round these part for nigh on <sssssftum> aaaaaarrrgghhh.

Don't listen to the oldtimers Drew, get the frick out of anything that doesn't create tangible assets. Invest in spades.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:15:42 PM EST
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Invest in spades.

(insert joke about donating to Obama here)

</snark>

(Awful, I know, but I couldn't resist.)

My retirement account, which doesn't have a lot in it anyway, is with Barclay's.  It's a forty-year evolutionary one.  The rest of my stuff is FDIC insured, I think, although I'm not positive on he IRA.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:21:57 PM EST
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No Drew, use the spades to dig holes into which you can crawl.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 05:48:44 PM EST
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Rest assured, I do plenty of that.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 05:58:17 PM EST
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Fr the record, I recognize the joke was way over the top.  I apologize.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 06:22:38 PM EST
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No need to apologize. I have enjoyed the exchange.  If you want to insult or upset me you will have to work a lot harder.  Besides, I agree with much of what you said. But the fact remains that in a lot of red states the voting is strongly affected by small town and rural voters.  It is a different world with a different world view.  

Progressives need to learn how to address small town and rural voters in an effective way in order to peel off a substantial portion that I suspect can be recruited to support a progressive agenda.  To speak in terms of icons or architypes, we may never recruit the John Wayne fans of that world, but we may have success with the Clark Gable fans.  This is especially true with this segment's younger voters.  Most of them have to leave their homes, their families and their communities just to make a living.  There is a community of interests, but progressives must find a language that works in this demographic without losing voters it already has.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 08:00:09 PM EST
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I did not get it at all. Good thing there is wikipedia or I would have had to ask.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:44:37 AM EST
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