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Wall Street Prepares for Potential Lehman Bankruptcy Filing

Sept. 14 (Bloomberg) -- A group of banks and brokers began preparing for a potential Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. bankruptcy filing today, addressing outstanding trades that the company has in over-the-counter derivatives markets.

Financial firms have started ``netting'' Lehman trades on credit, equity, interest-rate, foreign exchange, and commodity derivatives, according to a statement from the International Swaps and Derivatives Association e-mailed to Bloomberg News.

``ISDA confirms a netting trading session will take place between 2 p.m. and 4 p.m. New York time for over-the-counter derivatives,'' the ISDA said. ``Trades are contingent on a bankruptcy filing at or before 11:59 p.m. New York time, Sunday, Sept. 14, 2008. If there is no filing, the trades cease to exist.''

That is, if A is owed x by Lehman, and Lehamn owes x to B, A and B agree to eliminate Lehman and to say that A is owed x by B.

That's a good thing, but preparing for this means that the likelihood of bankruptcy is not remote.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:14:49 PM EST
``Trades are contingent on a bankruptcy filing at or before 11:59 p.m. New York time, Sunday, Sept. 14, 2008. If there is no filing, the trades cease to exist.''

Very nice use of embedded exotic options.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:18:40 PM EST
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Aaah - the old EEO ploy ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:20:20 PM EST
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What I don't get is this stuff about "bad banks".

What's a "good bank"?

Maybe it's like injuns - the only good bank is a dead bank....

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:27:16 PM EST
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good bank: assets worth what is claimed
bad bank: assets not worth that, and this losses to be borne at some point on the future even with enough liquidity in the meantime

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:33:17 PM EST
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By the definition, how many good banks are there on Wall St?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:53:12 PM EST
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Probably just the one at the end of the street with water running against it which you can stand on and look out towards Brooklyn.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 04:07:50 PM EST
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Is the bank you are refering to the FED of New York?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 06:54:00 PM EST
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past the east side of Manhattan Island.  

Home of the Brooklyn Bridge, which somehow inevitably comes to mind these days.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 07:37:49 PM EST
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Stupid me.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 07:39:03 PM EST
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It's 1:40am your time, after all...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 07:39:47 PM EST
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He's referring to the river bank.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 07:38:54 PM EST
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I don't think it is that easy. If the systems by which assets are externally valued are suspect, then the claims of even the good banks are hollow.

Banks do not operate in a closed microsystem (though they might like to).  Value is ultimately social. As someone pointed out - the value of a mobile phone when lost and thirsty  in a large un-networked desert is zilch. The ownership or income worth of commercial or industrial property, for example, is not in the cement. It's in the space.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 04:01:38 PM EST
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bad bank: assets not worth that, and this losses to be borne at some point on the future even with enough liquidity in the meantime

I think in this case it's more like "assets worthless as long as the market has no liquidity - and pockets not deep enough t make it through".

Keynes said "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent".

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 06:51:39 PM EST
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