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17:20. Berlusconi accuses the Leftist union CGIL and the pilots of the Alitalia disaster.

Ratings are now at 81%.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:24:24 AM EST
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You know slowly I am believing that the creationists might be right. Human beings were created by God, stupid! - and evolusion is just a phantasie to cover up the stupidity. :-(
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:28:05 AM EST
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Yeah, but if god created mankind in his own image, he must be stupid, vulgar and have a broad mean streak. Some deity, huh?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:43:29 AM EST
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Most gods are stupid, vulgar, jealous and mean.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:00:54 PM EST
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How do you know?  How many have you met?

Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:47:57 PM EST
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I read their press releases.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 01:26:32 PM EST
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Easy, he's a Roman: they've cornered the gods market for 2500 years and counting...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 04:56:00 PM EST
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Given the competition, that's not surprising.

Vikings - we all get to wait for Armageddon, which the good guys are doomed to lose, at which point we all die.

Aztecs - our god needs the blood of human sacrifices to survive, or else the sun will disappear forever.

by Zwackus on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 05:25:06 PM EST
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Jesus isn't. He loves you.

And he'll fry your ass in hell for all eternity to prove it.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 02:16:58 PM EST
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who ever promised you a rose garden?

 :)

~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:25:15 PM EST
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Well theres only one song to go with that. and I have no Idea why a Rap artist hasnt covered this yet.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 02:47:52 PM EST
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The man!

And he is sorely missed.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 03:17:45 PM EST
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How can his ratings be going up? Let me guess, that 81% would approve of Berlusconi lining up the unions or the investors (or both) against a wall and shooting them?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:36:01 AM EST
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Who's doing the rating?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 02:21:45 PM EST
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La Repubblica has a poll asking readers whose fault this is:
Current Government 54%
Previous Government 2%
Unons 17%
Workers 5%
Previous company management 20%
Private investors 1%
I don't know 1%
Funny that "The EU rules against State subsidies" is not an option...


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:42:32 AM EST
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It's a straw poll by readers of la Repubblica, notoriously biased.

A rigorous poll done on September 15th gives Berlusconi at 60%.

There is an excellent analysis of this phenomenal success this morning by Edmondo Berselli, unfortunately not on line yet.

My comments are ironic but I would not be surprised if his ratings rise further over this. Di Pietro who is the only serious menace to Berlusconi's popularity is at the airport with the workers.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:59:18 AM EST
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When in a hole, dig deeper!
Berlusconi: "Fallimento Alitalia? Vediamo, voglio approfondire", dice il presidente del Consiglio.Burlesconi: "Failure of Alitalia? We'll see, I want to go deeper" says the Prime Minister


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:08:56 PM EST
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L'Alitalia continuerà a volare anche dopo che sarà ufficializzato il ritiro dell'offerta avanzata dalla Cai: saranno i lavoratori a garantire la continuerà aziendale a tutela della clientela e dei suoi interessi. E' quanto ha dichiarato il segretario nazionale dello Sdl Paolo Maras

Can the SDL trade union guarantee that fuel will be supplied? That was the reason advanced over the weekend for why Alitalia might not be able to fly already last Monday.

Also, Alitalia could lose its licence to fly due to insolvency.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:11:42 PM EST
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It's a big question. No gas, no fly. How do they expect to pay current bills?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:27:55 PM EST
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ENAC has convoked the commissioner Fantozzi for Monday to verify if there are the conditions necessary to keep their flight license.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:32:37 PM EST
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As you can see it's a shouting match.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:12:41 PM EST
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The EU rules against state subsidies didn't cause this, though. And in my recollection, France gets away with plenty of bailouts, because it does them the right way. In that sense, the rules mainly seem to protect against throwing money in a bottomless pit. Another case of the EU saving Italy from itself, I'd say.

Too bad they didn't do that with regard to the Roma.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:03:25 PM EST
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Berlusconi's government loaned 300 million euro to Alitalia in spring. The sum ran out a few days ago. It was a masked state subsidy. The EU let it go but RyanAir and British may take Italy to court over it.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:10:31 PM EST
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Yes they did - Alitalia has been dying since 2006 when the usual subsidies became illegal.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:12:53 PM EST
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Alitalia is a monstrous case of corruption. According to some analyses rampant corruption was financed by the inflation of the lira. When the euro came in, all of these companies simply collapsed.

Basically Berlusconi's primary aim in politics is to set up system to keep corruption thriving.

Yesterday the treasury police raided the central offices of Alitalia and took away all the books. Unfortunately any notizia criminis has been largely amnestied either by Berlusconi or Prodi.

In Italy everybody is both guilty and innocent but above all, it's the other guy's fault.

Whatever, it's the workers getting shafted here.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:22:38 PM EST
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why not make il cavaliere buy it?

he's clutched onto it to get elected, make him own it too!

~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:26:29 PM EST
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