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is this a petty-minded payback for zappo pulling the troops from the grand ~~co-option~~coalition?

smells like it

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 01:49:27 PM EST
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Scheunemann is a neocon and all the neocons hate Spain. Plenty of neocons in the McCain camp. Still, everything indicates that McCain himself is forgetful at best, if not outright ignorant. I kind of feel for the old guy as I dread that kind of situation where you are completely out of the loop on a conversation and start spouting nonsense as a defence. Still... a person should learn to ask.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 02:21:54 PM EST
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Re: Thursday Open Thread (none / 0)

why the hate-on for spain, is it just the iraq thing, or does it go deeper? is it just the neocons, and they liked spain under aznar, no?
old europe?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 05:26:26 AM EST
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Re: Thursday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

It is the Iraq thing and the cozy relationship between the neocons and Aznar, who has been trolling since he left in 2004.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 05:28:25 AM EST
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As I have said elsewhere, the fact that the Bush administration is shunning ZP since the May 2004 pullout is a big deal in Spain, hence the journalist kept pressing McCain for a straight answer to whether he would meet with ZP.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 04:23:30 PM EST
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who in spain cares? the people, or some of spain's pars-that-be?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 06:57:45 AM EST
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Re: Thursday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

Well, the fact is that Spain is a NATO and OECD member and its GDP would qualify it for G8 membership (ahead of Canada and Russia) so not being able to have official contacts above Secretary of State level (and when Condi comes to Spain she's quite aggressive) is a difficulty in conducting policy.

The Right Wing opposition and media use Bush's snubs as an argument that Spain's standing in the world is diminished because of ZP.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 07:24:31 AM EST
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thanks, migeru, for a concise, informative summation.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 03:33:15 PM EST
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