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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 09:11:01 AM EST
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It looks a lot like bits of the Lac Leman or Lac d'Annecy, minus the really big mountains. Lots of swanky lakefront homes on both, though lots of public land too.
by MarekNYC on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 03:00:50 PM EST
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Lake Bled is much smaller than those, not enough place for condos of lots of rich men. There are hotels. (Even Tito had one of his residences in one hotel.)

minus the really big mountains

? I don't think so.

Triglav (the top of the mountains to the West [photo looks Southwest-west], about 20 km away) is 2864 m; while Lake Bled is at 475 m, so 2389 m difference. (Even closer, towards the North at the Austrian border, is another 2000+ m chain.)

For Lake Geneva (372 m), I guess Dents du Midi (3257 m) will have to count as maximum -- so 2885 m above the water table. For Lac d'Annecy (447 m), I guess it's La Tournette (2351 m) -- so 1904 m above water level.

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 03:03:30 PM EST
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View Northwest with the border mountain chain:



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by DoDo on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 03:10:47 PM EST
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For Lac Leman the max is Mont Blanc. For the Lac d'Annecy, you're right.
by MarekNYC on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 03:45:34 PM EST
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Hm. Mont Blanc is 50 km from shore and beyond the coastal range. Is it even visible from Geneva?

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 04:57:36 PM EST
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Yes. Assuming no buildings or clouds are in the way it's visible form pretty much anywhere on the right bank. The entire massif is. A quick google search landed me this photo which was taken from the lakeside in downtown Geneva. You'll notice that there's a break in the first wave of ranges. On the right there's the Saleve (long ridge rising up), on the left the Mole (classic pyramidal shape) and in the gap between them the full massif. Either it wasn't one of those perfectly clear autumn days when the whole massif is a bright crystal clear monument with a shimmering reflection in the lake, or the photo is imperfect, but you get the idea.

by MarekNYC on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 05:17:25 PM EST
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(I got the un-ebmeddable picture only from the comment source)

I once travelled all along the Northern shore, camped along it, then walked along the lakeshore in Geneva, without seeing it - it must have been moist or cloudy when I was there. <checking photos> Indeed, both. When I was in Geneva, I went to Chamonix the next day, and that travel along the l'Arve seemed quite a distance.

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 05:31:51 PM EST
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The Mont Blanc is visible from many heights around Grenoble when the sky is clear enough; much, much farther away...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 09:10:28 AM EST
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I quoted the distance in comparison with the 20 km from Lake Bled to Triglav, not for lack of sight (on that, I believed the coastal range obstructs the view).

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by DoDo on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 02:36:48 PM EST
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