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How We Became the United States of France

Now our laissez-faire (hey, a French word) regulation-averse Administration has made France's only Socialist president, Francois Mitterand, look like Adam Smith by comparison. All Mitterrand did was nationalize France's big banks and insurance companies in 1982; he didn't have to deal with bankers who didn't want to lend money, as Paulson does. When the state runs the banks, they are merely cows to be milked in the service of la patrie. France doesn't have the mortgage crisis that we do, either. In bailing out mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, our government has basically turned America into the largest subsidized housing project in the world. Sure, France has its banlieues, where it likes to warehouse people who aren't French enough (meaning, immigrants orAlgerians) in huge apartment blocks. But the bulk of French homeowners are curiously free of subprime mortgages foisted on them by fellow citizens, and they aren't over their heads in personal debt.

We've always dismissed the French as exquisitely fed wards of their welfare state. They work, what, 27 hours in a good week, have 19 holidays a month, go on strike for two days and enjoy a glass of wine every day with lunch -- except for the 25% of the population that works for the government, who have an even sweeter deal. They retire before their kids finish high school, and they don't have to save for a $45,000-a-year college tuition because college is free. For this, they pay a tax rate of about 103%, and their labor laws are so restrictive that they haven't had a net gain in jobs since Napoleon. There is no way that the French government can pay for this lifestyle forever, except that it somehow does.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 03:35:34 PM EST
Why "sigh" ? He's totally taking the piss out of the failures of the US in comparison with all the countries they've spent 50 years slagging off.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 03:53:21 PM EST
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Exactly as I read it - a back-handed compliment.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:16:10 PM EST
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well, like I said in the other thread, it's uninformed, prejudiced, stupid and racist.  I guess it's a compliment that it's possible to be all these things about the French without triggering any reaction.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:27:08 PM EST
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Jerome, the guy's writing about 103% tax rates and 19 holidays per month.  I'm pretty sure he's mocking the United States for the caricature of France that's been painted repeatedly for so many years.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:36:44 PM EST
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it is like with the New Yorkers picture of Obama as islamic fundamentalist and Jerome doesn't get it.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:39:25 PM EST
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At the beginning of the article he says so explicitly:
Put it all together, and the America that emerges is a cartoonish version of the country most despised by red-meat red-state patriots: France. Only with worse food.
But he does get carried a way a bit too much later...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:42:06 PM EST
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Carried away a bit perhaps, but I thought it was pretty funny, personally.  Then again, this kind of humor is straight up my alley, and people find me weird.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:52:45 PM EST
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That's exactly how I read it too. Was almost expecting to find an "I fart in your general direction" line inserted somewhere for good measure...

Similar reaction a few years ago when it was turned out that the cheese eating surrender monkeys were actually right about Iraq...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:52:36 PM EST
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For someone that doesn't seem to like France very much, that's a positive article.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 03:59:38 PM EST
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Also, there is a serious attempt at irony in there (103% tax rate), even if in the full article, some stereotypes seem reinforced rather than lampooned.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:16:40 PM EST
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I thought it was pure snark. It's attitudes which are being questioned, not Frenchiness.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 04:45:33 PM EST
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Since you all think this is harmless fun:


When the state runs the banks, they are merely cows to be milked in the service of la patrie.

Government milks state-owned companies. We so love those caricatures that show government in a wonderful light


Sure, France has its banlieues, where it likes to warehouse people who aren't French enough (meaning, immigrants or Algerians) in huge apartment blocks.

The French are uber-racist.


Mitterand's nationalization program and other economic reforms failed, as the development of the European Market made a centrally planned economy obsolete.

Except it did not fail, and it did not make planning obsolete. But hey, let's keep on repeating it, it will be true.


The Rothschilds got their bank back, a little worse for wear.

Tha nationalisations saved most of these banks from collapse, then.


These days, France sashays around the issue of protectionism in a supposedly unfettered EU by proclaiming some industries to be national champions worthy of extra consideration -- you know, special needs kids.

Industrial policy is protectionism. The EU are hypocritical wimps.

But yes, it's harmless fun. It propagates no narrative, no memes, no hidden agendas.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 05:05:27 PM EST
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Sorry J, but you're standing this on its head. He is highlighting the lazy stereotypes of France pervasive in the US to underline his point that it's actually the American system that's broken.

Now I accept that the US & British senses of humour are different and so it is possible I'm misreading this but it comes over to me as massively sarcastic about the failings of america. And I appear not to be alone in this interpretation.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 05:55:23 PM EST
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I guess Jerome's point is that UKians/USians can't poke fun at each other without a side order of anti-French snark.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 06:15:03 PM EST
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"How can people dumber than us be doing so much better" is the theme, meeting at the intersection of nationalism and reality. Sure, it's insulting, but the French system is getting really hard to rip on when the US system is in such peril, and this is a sour grapes demonstration of that.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 at 06:29:00 PM EST
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