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well it's between 1 month and 10 months hoam loan payments, enough to get peoples heads back above water for a few months, Time to do something for themselves. if it had been put in last year before everything went really wrong, you dont have to pay off the full ammount if you act quick enough, just give the individuals aspace to help themselves. OK a lot won't be in a position to, but  it's better than the mess thats about now.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 07:53:56 PM EST
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Say I have a house with a 30 year $200,000 mortgage which has just been reset from 5.0% to 7.5%.

My payments go from $1084.19 to $1411.18 per month.

Let's foreclose on the house, put it into the hands of a "Custodian" and charge a reasonable "Capital Rental" to the "Occupier-formerly-known-as-Owner", and then index-link the rental.

At an initial "Capital Rental" of 4% the finance cost is $667 per month: at 3% $500.00 and so on.

Anything the Occupier pays in excess of the "Capital rental" due buys him Units, and if he wishes, he can always pay the Rental with Units if he doesn't want to, or can't, pay in cash.

The outcome is Units of a "quasi REIT" asset class which the owner of the distressed debt can sell off to long term investors.

The lower the Capital Rental is, the more affordable it is, and the more likely it will be paid.

I reckon a 2 to 3% (index-linked) return could be quite achievable for Units in a "Pool" of over a million homes....

Safe as Houses.....

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 09:27:57 PM EST
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The subprime folks generally couldn't afford the house, period, unless you permanently reduce their payments. To make matters worse, most of the loans in trouble, subprime, alt-A, or prime are adjustable. In the latter two often option ARM's. That means ballooning payments. Folks often stretched themselves thin just to make the initial teaser rates.  Unless you foresee a sudden rise in incomes then all we're doing is paying money to the banks without doing anything about the underlying problem.
by MarekNYC on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 at 11:23:31 PM EST
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Well, the problem is bad loans were made which means money was created (by the magic of fractional reserve banking) which shouldn't have. Now that money is going out of existence, making a number of companies and people bankrupt. You can allow those bankruptcies to take place and the money to disappear, or you can make good on those commitments by creating cash to back them up.

The second possibility leads to inflation, but it saves the institutions and allows the system to continue to function.

The first possibility would have knock-on effects as one company's bankruptcy immediately impairs assets on everyone else's balance sheet. You could conceivably end up with everyone filing for bankruptcy protection. That would also be a solution: if A owes money to B who owes money to C who owes money to A it can all be netted out to zero but the required disclosures will only take place if A, B, and C are all in bankruptcy court. But it everyone is bankrupt there will be no credit creation and, again, the economy will grind to a halt.

Another way to get the required "circular claims" disclosures to be made is for the government to pull a Roosevelt:

On March 5, 1933, the day after Roosevelt's inauguration, he called a special session of Congress which instituted a mandatory four-day bank holiday. This act provided for the reopening of banks after federal inspectors had declared them to be financially secure.
Just tell people that unless they all sit at a table with the Treasury Secretary and net out their outstanding bad claims, nobody will be allowed to continue in business.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 04:56:43 AM EST
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Few "structured" securities and almost all the banks had capital (securities available for sale) tied up in railroad or utilities firms. Both of those operated under monopoly conditions, hiding ponzi earnings reporting schemes.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 01:46:28 PM EST
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