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Perhaps the collateral damage he means is not in the financial world but among homeowners?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 05:18:20 AM EST
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Um, a default of an institution doesn't directly affect the homeowners who are debtors, not creditors, of the defaulting institutions.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 05:32:21 AM EST
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I was thinking that banks default because the price of derivatives is crashing after debtors default because of the crazy price structuring of their mortgages. The connection to bank defaults is indirect not direct, unlike for the banks' creditors, but I read this into "collateral damage".

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:10:42 AM EST
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I was referring to what ever would emerge as an important but salvageable part of the financial system as the dust clears.  It seems that the time for financial triage has arrived.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:18:26 AM EST
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Triage requires full disclosure.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:20:20 AM EST
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My point exactly.  We are assuming massive obligations without knowing whether they are salvageable.  How do we help by giving ourselves a dynamite enema and lighting the fuse?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:29:54 AM EST
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Martin makes similar points below.  The chief virtue of my recommendation is to create new credit for ongoing business and for credit worthy borrowers.  I don't know how much available credit is needed for the economy to work adequately.  But credit freeze has been cited by Bernanke as the reason we must come up with the $700 Billion.  I can see that it is a real problem.  I would rather see that amount of money spent on something real and obviously helpful than on unwinding 30 to 1 bets.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:25:35 AM EST
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