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Thinking further about this whole bailout situation, the US government is in effect handing over $800 billion of its tax reciepts to the banks. now 2007's tax reciepts came to $2,568 billion (PDF warning)so thats 31% of reciepts going straight to the finance industry. So it could be said that the government has just reduced itself to becoming the taxation or extortion arm of the US finance system, finally overtly against its own population.

Bringing us almost beyond Smedley Butler

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"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 06:44:23 AM EST
ceebs:
So it could be said that the government has just reduced itself to becoming the taxation or extortion arm of the US finance system, finally overtly against its own population.

That's what you get for voting for robust freedom-and-enterprise loving Republicans instead of whingy and demanding tax-and-spend Liberals.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 07:14:59 AM EST
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I, for one, welcome our new Giant Talking Penis overlord.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 09:34:16 AM EST
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Not as long as foreigners want to buy US bonds..

and if they eventually do not want.. well.. it means the system is decoupled and F*** the US would be the santard rant you will heard from other central banks.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 10:46:50 AM EST
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um, no. Tax receipts are obligated by statutory budget. Some portion pay monthly interest of public debt -- tens of billions of trillions of tax and "other" income. The rest is commited to mandatory expenses (e.g. US gov employee and dependent trust funds, annual SS and Medicare, Medicaid outlays, agency operating budgets) and discretionary programs (e.g. pork). Monthly interest payment costs are directly related to FRB fed funds (primary) rate, of which technically CPI-U is one determinant.

"Discount rates" offered by the FRB to certain T-bill dealers are, well, less than coupon yield issued (H.15)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/Current/

Public debt to the penny
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

Interest payments on the public debt
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

The Treasury and Congress, like any American household, "budgets" and "negotiates" with its creditor (FRB) to pay minimum interest due each month. MoM it's roughly 10% of total receipts -- OUTLAYS exceeding MoM balance roll-over into MoM total debt.

Treasury
http://www.fms.treas.gov/mts/mts0808.txt

Yeah, it's a scary way to run an organization.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 02:51:45 PM EST
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