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Yep - buy Apple, and you'll be special.

But not.

I'm really starting to dislike Apple. If you take away the maDz Dezignz Skillz there's a fascist jackboot behind that funky Gap-wearing facade.

Apart from the shiny, they're good at building closed consumer markets which they can dominate ruthlessly, in the same way that Microsoft tries to build and dominate business markets.

Jobs was smart enough to realise that hardware and software are drug pusher techno-teasers now, and you make your money from building a content bazaar and renting out space in it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:48:11 AM EST
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No, no, it's hating Apple that makes you special. Don't you know anything?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:52:51 AM EST
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Don't mind me - I just try to review the stuff dispassionately for a living.

All I know is that while the addicts are still enslaved by the shiny, it's getting harder and harder to find Apple journos, many of whom used to be fans, who actually like Apple any more.

Wouldn't it be a huge surprise if there were good reasons for that?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 09:59:44 AM EST
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They're a company. You expect to like them?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 10:15:26 AM EST
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They used to be liked.

But it's always good when a company doesn't kill viable products just because it can.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 10:21:19 AM EST
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Referring to their customers as "addicts" is dispassionate?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 10:20:03 AM EST
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Okay, look - people queue for hours overnight in the cold to buy a phone which it turns out they can't register, and which has some issues when they try to use it as a phone.

In some cases the phone bricks itself on the spot.

Then the police have to be called in to some locations because there's serious danger of rioting.

Purely dispassionately - really, does anything about this seem sane to you?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 01:08:33 PM EST
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Yep - buy Apple, and you'll be special.

But not.

Reminds me of a mate and I seeing the Levellers in Wolverhampton, and literally crying with laughter at the crowd all chanting in unison "Theres only one way of life and thats your own"

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 08:56:56 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
Apart from the shiny, they're good at building closed consumer markets which they can dominate ruthlessly, in the same way that Microsoft tries to build and dominate business markets.

is it so ruthless, when people are contributing apps from all over that work on apple's OS?

apple just makes IT easier for luddites and non-nerds to enjoy worry free computing, the whole 'think different' was good pr, but only could take on a rebel, 'creative' aspect because MS was ruthlessly locking people into bloatware that didn't work very reliably.

as apple got bigger, quality went down in some areas, but unless you're into linux, apple still represents a middle way, happy medium between gateswarez and the future, which undoubtedly will go to open source, peer to peer, drm free eventually. power to the people!

it's an interim thing...

(and yes the mac superiority complex is as ugly as any other!)

once you work with a mac, it's hard to go back, but one day i want to go beyond, to the starry firmament where the really free spirits live and code...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 12:30:04 PM EST
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once you work with a mac, it's hard to go back, but one day i want to go beyond, to the starry firmament where the really free spirits live and code...

Just to contribute a bit more to the total OT-ness of this subthread:

Have you looked at Ubuntu?  The Momcat has been trying off and on for years to kick the M$ habit.  She has had a spin or two with several different Linux distributions, but even with live-in tech support (me) she never really got completely comfortable.  Like a smoker breaking down, she would always eventually go back to the borg.  About two years ago she tried Ubuntu and immediately fell in love.  She shows every sign of being quite happy with it.  She has gone through at least one complete upgrade with essentially no help from me.  She still keeps an old W98 installation for the odd anime DVD that won't play nice, but she rarely uses it anymore.

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?

by budr on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 at 02:01:22 PM EST
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