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I'm not sure how one could identify conned homeowners from speculators.

How about we start with the elderly and poor who have either lost their homes or the equity in them through predatory lending practices?  I've yet to meet this apparently elusive "speculator" who blithely lies then sends in the keys.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 11:13:07 PM EST
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Indeed a non-toxic mechanism for "Equity Release" is one of the most attractive aspects of the model I've been evolving....

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 06:00:17 AM EST
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I'm not passing any moral judgement, people are in their right to make an investment decision rather than a shelter one, and some did so. When the house price is less than the value of the mortgage, there is a strong incentive to give up a home even if the homeowner is able to pay the mortgage - there were real cases on French TV earlier this year.

Here notes from a FreddieMac webcast :


"For those borrowers that bought a home based on rapid house price appreciation as a way to grow wealth, if they find themselves quickly underwater - you know we're even seeing it when we try to modify and renegotiate those loans - they are walking away. They're finding it not constructive."

Here's an analysis  of the subprime crisis:

"an increase in loan incentives such as easy initial terms and a long-term trend of rising housing prices had encouraged borrowers to assume difficult mortgages in the belief they would be able to quickly refinance at more favorable terms.
However, once housing prices started to drop moderately in 2006–2007 in many parts of the U.S., refinancing became more difficult. ...
The mortgage lenders that retained credit risk (the risk of payment default) were the first to be affected, as borrowers became unable or unwilling to make payments."

LA Times was once featuring a company promising to help "Unshackle yourself today from a losing investment and use our proven method to Walk Away" - which is quite normal in a society already inclined to stockmarket gambling.

I'm not sure taxpayer money should help bail out speculators of any kind - not without a price. Or in this cases, individuals have their part of responsibility, just like real estate brokers, investment banks and governments (warnings about the real estate bubble explosion in Britain, Spain and the US could be heard from 2006 already, without any one taking any kind of measure. Just like the derivatives market, this one too was supposed to "self-regulate", of course).

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 07:42:11 AM EST
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