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I like the idea of a national investment bank.  In fact, I like it a lot.
by Maryb2004 on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 03:38:22 PM EST
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One might also say that that it should be one of the principal instruments of any government to ensure the future of society, not just a reaction to catastrophe.

In a system with a policy range of only a year ahead or so - or up to the next election, a national investment bank should be one of the ways to think long-term about the future. Education is another.

A national investment bank should not be politically directed, though oversight is needed. All the functions and processes of the bank should be transparent. The bank is owned 100% by the people. The policy and project leadership should contain academics from different disciplines, business figures, finance professionals, as well as respected citizens in the arts, for instance.  They would not be political appointments, though I don't know how that could work.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 04:11:49 PM EST
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They would not be political appointments, though I don't know how that could work.

That's a difficulty.  

by Maryb2004 on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 04:29:13 PM EST
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If Justice Department rules were applied to the bank ie appointments based on merit, it could work.

It is easier in Finland that has similar existing institutions. The top person is usually a political appointee who is no longer active in politics - for instance a former PM. (being unicameral, there is no place to shuffle off the ex-PMs to.  

Tekes (Finnish Funding Agency for Technology and Innovation), for instance, has an oversight board made up more or less as I described earlier. Then there is strategic management, research management etc. It is cumbersome in some ways, but ensures that ideologies have less influence. Salaries are academic standard for the levels. Some business members at higher level are seconded by their companies.

But it is easier in Finland to get the best people because a) the differential in upper and lowers salaries is much narrower than in the US and b) a job with such an institution gives a valuable overview.

There is a certain amount of revolving door going on, but it is the sort of move that goes from macro to micro - ie a researcher or enabler for some new technology might leave the funding institution to join a project as a start-up, in order to guide it. As far as I know, this is actually encouraged. It's called seeding ideas and know-how.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 06:05:42 PM EST
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(being unicameral, there is no place to shuffle off the ex-PMs to)

Bruxelles? ;-P

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 12:33:40 AM EST
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Exactly - where they go to practice their very poor language skills ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 03:44:01 AM EST
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Yes, all states should have a national investment bank. It would also greatly help managing change -say kickstarting a network of batteries change stations for electric cars.
Of course, in Europe the state involvement sometimes looks like an investment bank. So in a way we have some of it. So let's ACTUALLY have it. Then other investment banks are free to compete agains the Government one, and we'll see if they are truly more efficient (maybe that's why we don't have it yet -they don't want to display the likely answer).

And let's make sure that it is not allowed to have a trading P&L on its own funds. Better, no trading P&L at all.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 04:17:56 AM EST
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Right. And there are many areas where commercial investment banks are unable to function because of the time scales. Forestry needs a 30 year look ahead. Mobile comms is 8 - 10 years. Nationwide infrastructure is always a national investment imo.

Long term investment also needs to be closely related to education policies at all levels. Not to train people in specific jobs that might not be there when they graduate - but in providing opportunities in all the disciplines.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 05:14:56 AM EST
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The Irish Industrial Development Authority - IDA has an outstanding track record of attracting all the top (mainly US) high tech, IT, Pharma, and financial services operations to base their European HQ's here - sometimes just manufacturing sites, but increasingly R&D and professional services as well.  It has a very long-term strategic remit -= i.e. identify new growth industries, key players, likely winners - and encourage them with grants, low tax, ready made sites, highly educated english speaking work force etc. - to locate here despite increasingly higher costs.

The strategy needs a revamp, but it has been extremely successful in the past - arguably the greatest single factor in the Celtic Tiger success.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 12:46:57 PM EST
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