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I've been to Berlin. Several times. Mitte (and most of the city really) has an excellent public transit system. Even the tourist guides warn that bringing a car much farther into the city than the S-Bahn ring is nonsense. So you may colour me confused as to why Berliners want cars in the city at all.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 05:26:33 AM EST
Having a car is useful for incidental purposes - going to IKEA; going to holidays in places that are hard to reach with public transportation; kiting with a few people on the Teufelsberg, as one of my friends does...

But this expansion is still in the centre of the centre, so to say. Yes, it also covers a few mainly residential blocks. But they're not the cheapest to live in at any rate.

Berlin is still far too car-centric to my taste - even though the number of cars of people is low compared to other German cities (490 cars/1000 adults), there are no large car-free streets or zones, and a lot of 4 and 6 lane steets (many with parking lanes on both sides, added).

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 06:36:57 AM EST
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I haven't been to Berlin since... 1975. At the time, me and my friends were getting around the city with the U-Bahn and the double decker buses (we were teenagers).

I didn't see much use for a car in the Stadt Mitte. It made more sense in outskirt neighborhoods like Frohnhau or when going to the Wannsee or the Tegeler See... </nostalgia>

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 09:23:56 AM EST
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