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the problem with tax rates is that most of the high earners don't pay PAYE and so the rate becomes irrelevant. It's all the tax avoidance schemes that various rich politicans have loaded the statute books with that are the problem. I'll never forget that Lord Vestey once boasted he only pays £50 tax a year, as a voluntary contribution, stating that once out of PAYE, paying tax was entirely voluntary with a good enough accountant.

Look at the viscount althorp, how come they pay next to no tax, or the Duke of Westminster. At the last election the Daily mirror reckoned that the top 10 earners in Britain avoided over £100 billion in tax. That's the problem, not 40% on £100,000

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:10:40 PM EST
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Look at the viscount althorp, how come they pay next to no tax, or the Duke of Westminster.

That would change a bit with a tax on land rental values though, eh?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:15:51 PM EST
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No, because these guys have got all the pseudo-excuses to deduct sums from their tax-liable profits from their accountants. they can spread the load overseas, they can split liabilities between different entities.

You have to delete huge numbers of tax emempt or tax-replaceable items such as art on "public" display from the statue books. give them nothing to play with. then you can worry about what you tax. It's them avoiding it that's the problem.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:30:47 PM EST
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Helen:
It's them avoiding it that's the problem.

Not on taxing land rental values it isn't. Ask the Danes.

We are not talking about the buildings on the land - we are talking about the rental value of the location.

Land owners pay - and its immaterial if the owner's a trust in Nauru, or a Lichtenstein Anstalt - or they lose the land.

Bingo.

That's the beauty of it. Everyone pays.

And that's why the House of Lords scuppered Lloyd George in 1912 when the House of Commons voted it through...

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:41:13 PM EST
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Indeed, a marginal tax rate of 100% on taxable income of 0 is 0.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 07:48:28 PM EST
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