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Milne has a nice understandingof the Anglo Disease.

What's the story behind the FatBoy moniker? I missed/forgot that.

Regarding Brown: I just shake my head. This was supposed to be the man Bliar feared, the mover of strings behind the scene, New Labour's brain? He seems simply stupid. Not the religious self-deceiver and serial self-brainwasher Bliar was, but just clueless, falling into every trap and not knowing what hit him.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 02:56:03 PM EST
Although in physique he's not overly porky, he has a look about him that suggests he's no stranger to a second visit to the buffet table. He also has a slightly sweaty look as well.

And I deliberately used it because it's slightly demeaning and that's how I think of him. A person of muted ambition who has decided that his best way to aggrandize his own modest contributions is to denigrate others who achieved more.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:45:51 PM EST
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funny i was just thinking about his well-fedness as well.

pompous, thoroughly second-rate pol, standard issue accountant skills wedded to the usual hyper-vanity quotient pols need to keep facing what they see in the mirror every day and keep smiling for the cameras.

where are the fire-breathers?

who will be the next keir hardie?

maybe there's just no reason for a labour party, now the factories that fueled their early rise are all in china!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:59:32 PM EST
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Then the white working classes will all vote BNP. there is a need for Labour, we just need them to connect to the electorate effectively.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 04:12:47 PM EST
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melo:
maybe there's just no reason for a labour party, now the factories that fueled their early rise are all in china!

That is of course the point.

Blue collar work is pretty much dead or overseas. In a world of "Intellectual Capital" and "Knowledge Value", what is the point of "Labour"?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 04:22:43 PM EST
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they should rechristen themselves the 'not quite as conservative' party, or 'almost distinguishable from the tory' party...

or boring old fraudulent farts party.

cameron's gonna cream the election, i'm beginning to wonder how it would be worse, tbg will doubtless enlighten me.

as for the bnp, that's too nasty to contemplate...

if brown's labour party is the bulwark holding that back then britain's in deeper shit even than i thought.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 05:47:04 PM EST
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I scanned the Daily Mirror yesterday. The working class voice!

Two items - one was a feature praising the robust effectiveness of McCain's speech. The other was an op ed which said 'The UK is full! Immigrants go home!'

So - the working classes who don't vote for Cameron will vote for the BNP.

I'd guess there's also going to be a significant switch from some of the more hardcore Labour voters to the BNP. I wouldn't be so very surprised to see the BNP winning a seat or ten.

Nu Lab meanwhile has become a failed middle class party. It's going to be eaten from the top by the Tories and from the bottom by the racists.

A few of the more well intentioned types will move to the Lib Dems. But by avoiding the malodorous prole vote, the Lib Dems have doomed themselves - and possibly the entire country.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 at 05:57:58 AM EST
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excellent synopsis, tbg!

too bad about the lib dems, clegg talks a good line, but it seems the libdems are the tweedledoo party to go to if tired of tweedledee and tweedledumb.

so the whole menu stinks.

i hope sven's right and something more co-operative comes along to vote for, something europewide.

screaming lord sutch'd do a better job than this lot.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 at 11:41:01 AM EST
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Unfortunately, that's only going to lead to more Blairism, as Labour becomes more and more frightened of losing the middle.  And all Cameron's got to do is talk nice and not do anything too stupid in order to win.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 at 02:12:30 PM EST
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Blue collar work is pretty much dead or overseas. In a world of "Intellectual Capital" and "Knowledge Value", what is the point of "Labour"?

Bashing Mexicans?  (Or Poles in y'all's case, I guess?)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:58:10 AM EST
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He also has a slightly sweaty look as well.

It's summer.  Everybody has that sweaty look in Britain during summer.  It's because you don't have air-conditioners.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 08:01:04 AM EST
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I appreciate it's different in DC but here the weather cut straight from spring to autumn wihout going through summer.

But it's not a healthy perspiration of the normal fit person, it's the sheen of watery lard associated with somebody who's not broken into a brisk walk since school and is constantly out of breath keeping up with the normally fit.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 08:56:01 AM EST
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here the weather cut straight from spring to autumn wihout going through summer.

Anglo Disease or not, I am considering a move...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 10:32:56 AM EST
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LOL

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 10:33:16 AM EST
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For those who don't get it, read this.

Here, the last attack of summer is in full swing: 31°C today, 36°C predicted for the weekend.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:01:36 AM EST
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Without wishing to put you off, this summer has been unusually wet and cool. normally about now temps would be in the mid 20s. tho I think its 16 at the moment.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:16:01 AM EST
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I seem to remember mid-20s (could be wrong) being about right this time in 2006, although I think that was a pretty hot year.  Certainly the heat wave in late-July was ungodly.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 at 07:30:04 AM EST
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the mover of strings behind the scene, New Labour's brain?

ROFLMAO

 Not the religious self-deceiver and serial self-brainwasher Bliar was

ouch...hammer, meet nail.

good diary. el gordissimo is w-a-y out of his depth. and new labour is revealed as mere lipstick on the pig.

there is a sliver of goodness in brown, i think, but he's become a mere tool of the plutocracy, deep in the delusion of being some kind of swashbuckling leader to nowhere, somewhere right of john major, the overton window has slid so far right since blair's advent even.

british politics seems stuck in a bog of boredom. like helen often mentions, any tendency to out-the-box thinking has been eradicated from labour, leaving apparatchiks awash in mediocrity, flailing to stay above water, as global conditions strip bare the governmental imprudence and incompetence that have become the norm.

i keep flashing back on harold wilson, i don't know why, maybe because he didn't seem like a poster for elitism, like blair and brown do.

didn't the redgraves start a new party?


~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:49:54 PM EST
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