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Indeed, martingale contends in a parallel subthread:
Secondly, I don't see how the fact that a significant population is for all intents and purposes uneducated on these values can matter. In the 18th century (or 19th century for that matter), universal education was nonexistent, yet those are commonly associated with the Enlightenment. Surely, today's near universal levels of education in rich societies compares very favorably?
The value of democracy and universal education also features prominently in the writings of the 19th Century liberals such as John Stuart Mill.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 12th, 2008 at 07:23:03 AM EST
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I would suspect that values, whether national or universal, are more effectively inculcated through propaganda and repetition rather than education. While martingale notes that education had not reached present day levels in the 18th century Europe, the French citizen, for example, was systematically exposed to the words liberté, egalité, fraternité as slogans or signs. Their presence on monuments and buildings calls the formula to one's attention. Such signs became internalized and fundamental to public discourse. Perhaps one could call them "public axioms" such as the ubiquitous word "God" in the USA today.

While education is far more substantial in "fixing" ideals and values, cultural signposts serve to ground that knowledge as a shared experience. Without public recognition of values, they become a private experience. A sort of deregulation or outsourcing toward sporadic and local selfish charities.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Sep 12th, 2008 at 12:57:37 PM EST
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