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Bye-bye bananas!

Huffington Post | Why Bananas are a Parable For Our Times

Below the headlines about rocketing food prices and rocking governments, there lays a largely unnoticed fact: bananas are dying. The foodstuff, more heavily consumed even than rice or potatoes, has its own form of cancer. It is a fungus called Panama Disease, and it turns bananas brick-red and inedible.

There is no cure. They all die as it spreads, and it spreads quickly. Soon - in five, 10 or 30 years - the yellow creamy fruit as we know it will not exist. The story of how the banana rose and fell can be seen a strange parable about the corporations that increasingly dominate the world - and where they are leading us.

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:34:50 PM EST
Surely there must be seed banks somewhere that can store healthy seeds and after the banana apocalypse, then can be replanted in a brave new world?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:38:40 PM EST
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Bringing my years of experience of dynamic systems to the analysis and adding Herself (Ph.d., Genetics) to the investigatory team ...

Beats me.  

:-)

If the cancer attacks something that is a commonality - what makes a banana a banana instead of a kumquat - we're screwed.  

If genetic diversity provides protection multi-cultivar in a diverse agronomic environment could provide a way forward.

But as I said, I don't know.

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:45:00 PM EST
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Afew had a diary on this a while back, also off a Johann Hari piece. Was a good thread, too.

European Tribune - Peak Bananas?

So Gaia wins? Not so simple. As Hari tells us Until 150 [years] ago, a vast array of bananas grew in the world's jungles and they were invariably consumed nearby. Some were sweet; some were sour. They were green or purple or yellow. That biodiversity is now under threat because the monoculture of the marketable sweet yellow banana has provided for the proliferation of an unstoppable pathogen. Some varieties will resist, others will not. And foodwise, 85% of the world's banana production is locally consumed. The banana is also allied to the plantain, a staple in a number of parts of the world, also susceptible to Panama Disease.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:59:54 PM EST
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Nigeria grows a green small variety, that are apparently, the best tasting banana on the face of theplanet. but they can't apparently sell them because nobody will buy bananas that wont turn yellow.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 06:00:18 PM EST
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Two more links from that thread:

DJNozem (whozat?) on bad Europeans who don't understand they need GMO monocultures so as to go on getting that GREAT creamy-smooth sweet yellow flavor experience.

By Dan Koeppel, author of a book on the question, an NYT piece: Yes, We Have No Bananas.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:04:32 AM EST
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Bananas don't propagate from seeds though, do they? Isn't it all about cuttings?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:49:18 PM EST
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I have no idea but I thought there were seeds down the middle of bananas. Wiki has answers.

Banana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In cultivated varieties, the seeds have degenerated nearly to non-existence; their remnants are tiny black specks in the interior of the fruit.

and

Banana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While the original bananas contained rather large seeds, triploid (and thus seedless) cultivars have been selected for human consumption. These are propagated asexually from offshoots of the plant. The plant is allowed to produce 2 shoots at a time; a larger one for fruiting immediately and a smaller "sucker" or "follower" that will produce fruit in 6-8 months time. The life of a banana plantation is 25 years or longer, during which time the individual stools or planting sites may move slightly from their original positions as lateral rhizome formation dictates.

Cultivated bananas are parthenocarpic, which makes them sterile and unable to produce viable seeds. Lacking seeds, another form of propagation is required. This normally involves removing and transplanting part of the underground stem (called a corm).



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:57:50 PM EST
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This is just plain weird:

Bananas are not a tree but an herb.

An herb?  Huh?  That's unexpected.  By me.  (a total ignoramus re: Bananas)

[Is there a Banana Maven in the house?]

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 02:15:54 PM EST
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Wouldn't have guessed "herb" either.  I had a banana tree in my back yard growing up.  That's the closest I can come to being an expert.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 02:23:40 PM EST
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An herb is any non-woody plant.  

I just assumed from the common use of "banana tree" to describe it the banana plant was ... a tree.  ;-)

[Note of epistemological clarity: will entire Universe kindly quit mucking around with the sloppy use of adjectives and nouns?  It's very confusing.  KTHXBAI]

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 02:29:54 PM EST
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Does that mean you can smoke them...?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 06:43:14 PM EST
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Reminds me of a kid calling into a youth advice radio show fifteen years ago : "There's acid in the lemon juice I just drank ! Will I get hallucinations ?!?"

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 08:11:05 PM EST
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I remember smoking dried banana skins. The word was that they got you high, that was what "Mellow Yellow" meant.

LOL.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:10:33 AM EST
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That's totally bananas....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:26:41 AM EST
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My mate and I agreed that all we got out of it was a vague headache.

But we didn't smoke a whole bunch.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:48:32 PM EST
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I have a banana leaf cigar from Thailand loitering in the flat somewhere.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 06:10:06 AM EST
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You've smoked all the other things you brought back from Thailand and now you're down to just the banana leaf cigar?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 06:16:22 AM EST
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That would be it!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 06:35:06 AM EST
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See this.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 11:48:01 PM EST
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