He has always been all about the business, as has Sting. The idea that the Police had any leftish credibility, even back in the 70s, is laughable. Of course, in comparison with the Clash, everybody was faking it. But even the Clash had contradictions they refused to acknowledge; the rock industry demands contradictions and compromise. Any fan who really believes is dopey.
And in some ways that's the nature of rock and roll. It's always amused me that I believe in "proper" rock that has a simple purity as opposed to fake "designed" music (like McCartney said). but of course, the good stuff is what I like and the fake stuff bores me. How convenient.
So we're all compromised, we all bullshit about it. Or is it only a real fan can get worked up enough to care one way or another ? keep to the Fen Causeway
Now, not so much. 'Indie' rock mostly just sounds immaculate, whiny and corporate to me, and movements have been reduced to emo and other tokenised horrors. Hip hop and rap still shock people, but it's all about the bling and the babes and a bit of gangsta, which are hardly out there on the progressive edge.
But that 60s-70s period seems on its way to being canonised. People still play that music, they still cover it, teens keep rediscovering it, and even when it's reinterpreted in mash-ups it's still potent.
I'm not sure about leftish credibility. Rock against Racism and Red Wedge were always more noisier than effective, and after that, music was almost completely depoliticised - Live Aid was about as good as it got in the 80s. There's still protest folk happening in clubs, but audiences are getting older and protest songs never make the mainstream as they might have thirty years ago. (Sometimes.)
The depression years weren't great for mainstream music - it was mostly 'nice' with occasionally a little bit of naughty - so maybe that's where we are again for the next few years.
I'm not expecting an explosion of anything very new until there's some new recording and performance technology - which there probably won't be for a decade or two.
In the meantime - what music business? iTunes and a bit of touring for those with unusually fine cheekbones is all that's left.
Music is totally corporate now. The licencing laws mean you can barely play music in a pub now, the legit venues are closing, the points of entry are being closed off. As some journo wrote recently, "I watched a video of the nice from the 60s and watching proto-prog rocker Keith emerson stabbing his hammond with a knife was just as preposterous as it sounds. But somehow it was still a whole lot more like rock and roll than the Arctic Monkeys are ever going to dream of." keep to the Fen Causeway
Whether more people make music today as % of population compared to, say, the Post-war family piano playing and singing, would be interesting to know. Sheet music sales in the Fifties were staggering. You can't be me, I'm taken
One of the things music does is gives people narratives to aspire to. When your highest aspiration is to get five recs and a handful of comments from your work in progress, standards may have slipped a little there.
I don't agree (see Helen's point) that the music and the politics were irrelevant. A lot of people dropped out after Woodstock and tried to live sustainably. Some of them had some very exotic adventures in consciousness, not all of which were created by enthusiastic drug use. Some of them are still around working in renewables and such.
The promised utopia never happened, but considering the buttoned-down up-tight consciousness of the 40s and 50s, a lot changed in a very short time, and strange ideas like sustainability started to have an influence on the mainstream - even if they never dominated it, they became acceptable, and the counter culture which was evangelised by music was a huge driver of that.
Now there's no narrative, so there's no scene, and certainly no politics. Without media exposure - and a few hundred YouTube hits doesn't count - it's almost impossible for a non-trivial mass scene to form.
Elsewhere - the Straight Edger scene is funny. It's been around for at least a decade now that I know of, and I suppose when your parents are the ones having casual sex and snorting, smoking and sniffing all sorts then restraint is the only rebellious place to go. It's a bit odd that the music is post-punk thrash and not - say - Val Doonican, but that's kids for you.
b) Not to be too down about things, but isn't it less that music is lacking in narratives, more culture as a whole is lacking narratives?
A lot of people dropped out after Woodstock and tried to live sustainably. Some of them had some very exotic adventures in consciousness, not all of which were created by enthusiastic drug use. Some of them are still around working in renewables and such.
Or on blogs and such.
Sales of albums in the US dropped by 14% in 2008, but figures rose overall thanks to a surge in digital purchases. Digital album sales went up by 32%, while singles were 27% up on 2007, according to Nielsen SoundScan. The year's biggest-selling album was Tha Carter III by Lil'Wayne, while Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis was the top digital track with sales of 3.42m. Vinyl records also enjoyed an upsurge in 2008, with sales of 1.88m - an 89% increase on the previous year. The biggest-selling vinyl album was Radiohead's In Rainbows, which shifted 25,800 copies. Music sales, including physical and digital formats, music videos and ringtones, were more than 1.5 billion in 2008, compared to 1.36 billion in 2007. It is the fourth consecutive year on record that music sales in the US have topped the billion mark, while digital purchases broke the barrier for the first time in 2008. But sales of physical releases - CDs, cassettes and vinyl - via internet sites dipped by 8.6%, slipping three million beneath the 30 million mark of 2007.
Digital album sales went up by 32%, while singles were 27% up on 2007, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
The year's biggest-selling album was Tha Carter III by Lil'Wayne, while Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis was the top digital track with sales of 3.42m.
Vinyl records also enjoyed an upsurge in 2008, with sales of 1.88m - an 89% increase on the previous year.
The biggest-selling vinyl album was Radiohead's In Rainbows, which shifted 25,800 copies.
Music sales, including physical and digital formats, music videos and ringtones, were more than 1.5 billion in 2008, compared to 1.36 billion in 2007.
It is the fourth consecutive year on record that music sales in the US have topped the billion mark, while digital purchases broke the barrier for the first time in 2008.
But sales of physical releases - CDs, cassettes and vinyl - via internet sites dipped by 8.6%, slipping three million beneath the 30 million mark of 2007.
Producers of the era of the fifties were looking for a white artist who could take the sexy soul of Little Willie John and a horde of other black performers and cross it over. Elvis did the trick.
In less than a decade, black music was all over the radio, the main delivery system at that time. Some of it migrated to Europe, where it came back exploded as the British Invasion. With Elvis in the army in Germany, and the Beatles in Hamburg, it exploded there as well.
However much he wishes to deny it, Bob Dylan added a level of social consciousness or conscience that had never hit the mainstream before. He wasn't the first, building on Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger amongst a host, but his explosion was a shot heard round the world. When he went electric, it presaged the main event.
By the time psychedelia hit the world, the cycle was complete. The joining of the drug and political cultures affected every art form, from the San Francisco Sound to French cinema. Sexual barriers had fallen for good, accompanied by overt idealistic politics.
You could also argue that it wasn't long before the industry regained its footing, using glam and the heavier rock sounds to take the revolution back to ego-driven marketing concepts.
But it all really goes back to the melting pot that amurka was, and the influence of the former slaves' music was the primary driver.
The history of New Orleans music is the best example, mixing black-Afro and Carib sounds with the displaced French Acadians, with whorehouses providing the caldrons where the music was mixed. Even 3rd generation white Texas fiddlers like Bob Wills went there to sop up the mix with their bread, taking Duke Ellington horn charts back to play on three-part (or more) electric strings.
When Peggy Lee turned Little Willy John's "Fever" into required cocktail party music throughout suburbia, the damage was already done.
Then the insane born agains brought abstinence back into the equation, completely forgetting the very sexy "Midnite Rambles" that were the most popular part of every religious tent show.
Now it's the bedroom produced music of modern technology which will provide the next musical break. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Fever "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Black sex became white marketed sex. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
"Yeah, i know, but it ain't got no graphs. I only wrote it so Sven's daughter could do a remix of Peggy, without forgetting Little Willie John and his driving sexuality. "
Robbie Robertson did a great Rimbaud version of a tribute to the sexual awakening brought by Little Willie John. Notice lying in the back of an abandoned '59 Chevy in the second verse, notice another of my favorite voices, Maria McKee, swaying like a teenage Siren.
Actually, Sven's daughter should check out how Maria evolved from punk country Lone Justice days to the womanly power of Her First Solo Album song Breathe. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Here's a version by my old pal Pave Maijanen from the 70s. I've always liked his version and it was my intention to play it to the Daughter - so I am glad you reminded me. Sadly she just left for town after coming here to look after me - bless her little cotton socks - but I'll send the link to these for her ;-) You can't be me, I'm taken
Hey Randy, don't you have anything constructive to do before the organic markets close? "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Thanks, now I'll go look for a LWJ recording.
"Captain Smith and Pocahantas had a very mad affair when her daddy tried to kill him Daddy no don't you dare He gives me Fever."
I don't get that Love had much play in LWJ's version. He got so feverish, he was gettin' a bit violent, which was also a part of post-slave culture.
Where's rg when you need him, to put up a bit of Scriabin. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Faking it is part of survival. If you are ever attacked by a wolf, lie down exposing your belly, avoid eye contact and urinate. That is faking it. You can't be me, I'm taken