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Well, if you aren't talking about original inhabitants when you say "native Americans," but as opposed to recent immigrants, I'd assert that being born in America makes you native.  Otherwise you are simply making up subjective criteria to assign degrees of American-ness to people, which is in itself subject to extremely subjective criteria.   And you can't have a very productive conversation once it goes down that road.


Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:45:19 PM EST
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Yes, nativism is a favored polemic of white supremacists. It would be silly to test the American "faith," character or citizenship, by any other psychometric but profit motive.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 06:30:19 PM EST
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I'd say third rather than second generation. You definitely get a different perspective if you're brought up by parents who immigrated as adults. When the language and culture of the home you grow up in is not-American, that affects you and your identity. This is true even if as is often the case, you grow up mono or one-and a half lingual (I was the only American born kid among our Polish friends who spoke Polish fluently. The rest either didn't know it at all, or generally spoke English while their parents spoke Polish. This pattern seems quite common among Asians of my generation as well.)
by MarekNYC on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 07:13:18 PM EST
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