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I am sure I have NO IDEA what you are even talking about!  The only Native Americans I am aware of are ... er, Native Americans.  You know, the people already here when the white men and their slaves showed up.  Everyone else is immigrants, their descendants, descendants of slaves, or, as most Americans, incl. Obama, some combination of the above.  


Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:10:19 PM EST
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It's that obsession with ethnicity that's just plain weird.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:13:51 PM EST
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One person's obsession is another's easy coffee table talk.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:18:47 PM EST
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Sure. Weird peoples' coffee table talk!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:21:20 PM EST
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Hey - you brought it up.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:32:59 PM EST
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"native" = "US-born"

Sheesh.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:46:31 PM EST
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Makes enough sense to me, but Colman was using it to mean people whose roots have been here for a hundred years or so.  

Obama is "US-born".

Sheesh.


Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 05:48:55 PM EST
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But not a whole half of his family on his father's side.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 06:05:12 PM EST
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That's a long tradition ... "natives" against immigrants in the Gangs of New York in the 1860's, where the ancestors of some of the "natives" would have arrived around the turn of the century.

Allowing native-born children of immigrants as small-n native Americans would be too loose to create an effective tribalism, but going more than two or three generations back would normally sacrifice too many potential nativist allies.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 11:40:07 PM EST
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Not like John Panama McCain then? ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 20th, 2009 at 06:38:13 PM EST
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US military bases count as US territory.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 09:08:46 AM EST
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I am reminded of an old joke:

Q: Why does the sun never set on the British Empire?

A: Because God doesn't trust and Englishman in the dark.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 01:42:56 PM EST
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