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Given the negative connotations of "zero tolerance" more recently, an off-topic historicalpoint: it is my understanding that "zero tolerance" was turned from a sensible policy invented by a New York City police chief (get people for smaller violations, too, hoping to net harder criminals by the way and have an educational effect) into a standard-fare authoritarian policy "owned" by New York major Giuliani (harsh punishments for everything, random police controls that seem to focus on certain groups of people, leniency towards police brutality).

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 09:39:36 AM EST
It's a matter for criminologists, I think. There are benefits to having a large chance of being caught and having certainty that a price has to be paid. The 'broken window' hypothesis is also basically correct.

On the other hand you see zero tolerance being used to destroy communities by taking a large part of the male and a substantial part of the young female population away into prison for victimless crimes.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 11:38:31 AM EST
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Zero tolerance works for many things, because people that won't do something illegal if they are the only one will do it if someone else does it.

If there is litter on the ground, people will throw more.
If a car goes onto a previosuly empty bus lane, it will be followed by several more right away.
If enforcement of traffic laws is random and patchy, people will be unhappy to be caught, and won't change their behavior.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 02:31:13 PM EST
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taking a large part of the male and a substantial part of the young female population away into prison for victimless crimes.

The authoritarians transformed "zero tolerance" from an enforcement of existing laws into the implementation of new Draconian laws and regulations.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 03:06:58 PM EST
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In the specific case of NY, Giuliani also tried to apply his  "zero tolerance" to bicycle riders and pedestrians, which resulted in less enforcement of laws for drivers. I can't find the figures, but I seem to recall that this resulted in an increase in the death rate from traffic accidents, that more or less balanced out (at least initially) the reduction in the death rate from murders.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 21st, 2009 at 12:31:15 PM EST
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