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MS doesn't actually try hard to make end users pay for Windows or Office, does it ?

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 01:00:15 PM EST
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I mean, individual users

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 01:00:45 PM EST
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Yes, they work very hard to ensure that there are no large numbers of computers sold in Target or Wal-Mart with pirated copies of Windows or Office installed.

They of course do not put a lot of effort into the dribs and drabs of end user cash flows, but for the main end user cash flow, the license payments for software installed on a new machine, they are quite vigilant.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 01:05:50 PM EST
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You mean that people actually buy ODM'ed machines? I thought that "factory installed OS" was very high up on the Go Somewhere Else checklist...

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Jan 31st, 2009 at 02:45:40 PM EST
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Theres a BBC interview with Bill Gates somewhere, with him saying that he'd much rather that people pirate his software, than use a competitors.

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 01:12:16 PM EST
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He definitely said that (oh dear no link!). But his business plan from the start was that the software game is about imposing and maintaining a standard.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 02:27:37 PM EST
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They would if they could.

And on new PCs (especially for the mass market), they can and do.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 02:30:58 PM EST
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No, they don't, actually. Copy protection for Windows isn't that tough, and could be much, much tougher. Yes, if you buy your PC in the supermarket, it'll come with a paid copy of Windows. But Office is widely pirated. And let's not talk about China.

If Linux really made inroads into the end user market, Microsoft would not balk one second as making its OS as free as it was in the 90's...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:31:15 PM EST
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Yes, if you buy your PC in the supermarket, it'll come with a paid copy of Windows

That's what I said. This is a discussion here between people who wouldn't buy a Dell or a supermarket PC, but that's no reason to ignore the mass market of those who do.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 at 04:42:28 AM EST
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The real money comes from corporate purchases, not end users, and MS is ready ready to drop the OEM license cost to zero if it was at risk of losing significant end user market share. It is already very, very low as it is...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 at 04:08:18 PM EST
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