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Microsoft cant even get word 2007 to translate to the old format properly.

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 01:13:30 PM EST
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Tell me they really wanted it to.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 02:24:24 PM EST
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... easy to miss, it reads:
Microsoft cant even get word 2007 to translate to the old format properly.

When obviously you would have meant, "Microsoft can even get word 2007 to fail to translate to the old format properly."

You don't want the new machines with the new Microsoft Office to turn out documents that the old machines can easily read ... Microsoft has had various "features" to make it difficult to easily produce backwardly compatible files since Word 6.0 at least (before then I was using WordPerfect 5.1, but I assume they were doing the same tricks back before that as well).

It does double duty, first in getting organizations to upgrade across the board rather than "only those who need the new features", second, in interrupting the progress made by other applications in being able to both produce and consume Word and other Microsoft Office files.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 03:01:36 PM EST
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oh its worse than that. they appear to have broken the fonts beyond the european character sets between versions.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:06:18 PM EST
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... deliberate gamesmanship ... it might be the tremendous usability testing of corporate software development at work.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:08:39 PM EST
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Its one thing that you would think was difficult to get wrong. it means that any non european language document becomes broken with the new version. Pretty hard for that to slip past corporate testers. (I know because in my past I was one)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:22:12 PM EST
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But of course, assuming a direct relationship between identifying a problem and fixing the problem contradicts the assumption of usability testing being run by a large corporation.

If the change underneath breaking backward compatibility was made early enough (on what that department thought were sound grounds) to be deeply embedded in the new code, and the broken compatibility was uncovered late enough in usability testing, then its a corporate decision regarding the cost of fixing the problem, including slipping release dates, and the cost of retaining the problem.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Jan 31st, 2009 at 08:50:46 AM EST
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well the cost of this roblem would be a lack of sales outside much of the non english speaking world, all of your old documents would need major conversion work rather than just something simple that can be done in a couple of minutes. What possible sound grounds can there be for reorganising the layout table for fonts?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jan 31st, 2009 at 12:07:09 PM EST
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