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Save Capitalism From Itself, Part XVIII.

That Wolf thinks this is not ideological, or that "to preserve as much liberty as possible, while recognising that the minimum state was unacceptable to a democratic society" is not a moral position, is just ridiculous.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 05:51:55 AM EST
...I should also mark his dualism. Now Keynes is the middle-of-the-road between the extremes of the "Austrian school" and "socialism". However, in truth there were several different versions of both, not to mention the then still not Austrian school-related debate of American liberals and libertarians, and anarchists in Europe.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 05:54:32 AM EST
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I'll forgive him that on the grounds that he has a word-count to stay within.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 05:58:15 AM EST
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However, his placement of himself in a comfortable middle (which now somehow became Keynesianism, formerly also lumped together with socialism) depends on this simplification.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 06:37:01 AM EST
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Isn't it fantastic that Keynesianism, seen as extreme just a few years ago (Krugman: "I'm a member of the radical left, previously known as the center"), that same Keynesianism is now seen as the middle ground.

I don't think we've ever seen an Overton window zip past that fast.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 06:45:30 AM EST
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Yeah, at the meta level, Wolf's positioning is truly great news.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 06:48:33 AM EST
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I think that Wolf has always been open to argument, but unfortunately has tended to base his cool rationality on bollocks assumptions.

For instance, he - like Sam Brittan - has for some time been approving of Land Value Taxation,which is not actually grounded in the conventional anthropocentric economic assumption that ONLY individuals can be "productive". As opposed to Capital - of which Land has been classified as a sub-set to obfuscate things even more conveniently.

If you deny that Land has a "Value" (ie is "productive") then you are heading off the possibility of a tax on the privilege of exclusive ownership of this Commons, which is what Land Value Tax actually is. In fact even Milton Friedman regarded it as the least worst tax.

I digress.

It does look like there is a major shift in assumptions going on, and not just by Wolf.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:22:09 AM EST
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You do realise that giving money to rich people to bail them out of their epic mistakes isn't actually Keynesianism?

It's nice that people are at least talking about a change, kind of, more or less, but Keynesianism isn't necessarily a 21st century kind of an answer.

And so far we haven't seen much of a move to practical Keynesianism anyway - more the usual corporate welfare, leveraged by guile, panic, and threats of extortion.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 07:05:00 AM EST
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more the usual corporate welfare, leveraged by guile, panic, and threats of extortion.

This is the Bush administration we're talking about, so who should be surprised?

If you haven't read it yet, I strenously recomend the long article in todays Salon de News on the bungled American handling of the financial crisis, primarily because they didn't try to handle it as much as just protect the crass class interests of their backers.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 07:16:16 AM EST
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This is the Bush administration we're talking about...

Not just.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 11:06:41 AM EST
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It's also interesting to see the people who fall past the (Overton) window, Monty Python-style. von Mises and von Hayek have gone from being geniuses to being Austrians (and that's in Europe so you know it's gotta be bad).

Real capricorns don't believe in astrology.
by tomhuld (thomas punkt huld at jrc punkt it) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 08:26:30 AM EST
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Sure, Serious People don't like to think of themselves as ideological. Setting the aims of a democratic society (whatever that means) is always a moral, political discussion.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 05:59:49 AM EST
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Indeed. But isn't some form of "this is a technical, not ideological reform" argument being made all the time? I suppose reality is moving too fast these days for people's ideological blind spots to catch up with it.

You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 at 08:45:16 AM EST
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