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With blanket statements like "there is little evidence that Russian leaders have ever cared about their own people's welfare" you're not going to get very far.

Maybe Yeltsin cared but was just an incompetent drunk, but Putin has done more for the welfare of the Russian people than Yeltsin except possibly for the latter stepping on a tank in 1991 (forgetting for a minute than he later sent tanks to bomb the Parliament). And Gorbachev also did care but  was in an impossible situation. And Khrushev cared enough to roll back Stalinism... And then there's Peter the Great.

Whether it is for misplaced reasons (I say panslavism, you say imperialism) or not, Russia does care about Belarus and Ukraine, and also about the millions of ethnic Russians in the former Soviet republics.

Now, you may not like their style but, come on!

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 8th, 2009 at 05:04:26 AM EST
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Well you know you had me with your first sentence, which I can't really defend and was of course not intended to be taken that literally; but then you spoil it by suggesting that Putin's improvements are motivated by something other than self-interest.  
by russellw on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:33:18 AM EST
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I won't deny Putin's self-interest. But he has other motivations. You have to admit his has been a relatively enlightened self-interest from the point of view of ordinary Russians, if his approval ratings are anything to go by. Compare and contrast with Bush the Lesser's unenlightened self-interest and approval ratings.

I am as appalled as the next person by some of the things that have been going on in Russia under Putin re: human and political rights, press freedom, and the way terrorism and separatism have been handled, etc, but analysis of Russia which starts from the premise that Putin is the devil gets us nowhere.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:08:48 AM EST
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Unfortunately I don't have to admit any such thing.  I hope you are right and I am wrong, but Putin's approval ratings seem to me to stem from a collective Russian inferiority complex that manifests itself in a compelling and overly romantic desire to be seen as a great nation.  Which it is of course by many measures, but politically and militarily its best days are behind it. Economically only time will tell, but what used to be its cheapest and most abundant resource, people, is now in decline and widespread maladministration has led to a squandering of natural resources.

With a declining Russian population of course the people as well as the territory of Ukraine are attractive to Putin, but only as yet more resources to be exploited, I fear.

by russellw on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:24:15 AM EST
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A compelling and romantic desire to be seen as a great nation - not to mention a squandering of natural resources - are hardly uniquely Russian failings.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:57:25 AM EST
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