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Well, my initial reaction was that you can only threaten to cut it off so many times before the threat loses its bite.  I mean, who can be surprised by Russia, or shady oligarchs or Putin or whomever, deciding to send an explicit message like this?  I mean, they're more of a horse head in the bed than a polite memo crowd anyway.

As for Europe.  1) Aren't they trying/wanting/justifying the need to build a pipeline to Europe that is sep. from Ukraine?  2) They don't care if you like them.  They care if you need them.  Turning off your gas will piss you off, but you will still beg them to turn it back on.  3) Theoritically, if Putin were in control And ok'd this, do you think it could have anything to do with pure politics?  Tit for Tat for August or anything?

As for who is in charge, does anyone even really know?  I just got a book in today, "Plan Putina -2010."  I don't see a "Plan Medvedeva" in the series...  OTOH, Sean's had some article's about this on his site.

For those of you who read Russian, there has been a few articles of late on the status of the Medvedev-Putin "tandem."  Russian Newsweek has an interesting story (translated in JRL #233) arguing that Medvedev and Putin have a difficult relationship.  Much of the day to day governance has moved from the Kremlin to the White House.  Medvedev continues to act as the apprentice or sidelined as one by constantly looking to Putin for his approval.  Konstantin Faaze and Mikhail Fishman write:

People who know Medvedev say that he is extremely busy -- "he sleeps only five hours a day" -- and takes his duties extremely seriously. For instance, since the beginning of the crisis he has been holding conferences several times a week with ministers, vice premiers, and his aides. But that does not change anything, a Kremlin staffer asserts: Putin's signature is always needed, just the same. According to him, Medvedev writes this on the documents that he sends to Putin: "Esteemed VV (Vladimir Vladimirovich), please take a look." Or: "To V.V. Putin. Your opinion? With respect, Medvedev." Putin, when he used to send papers to his prime ministers, would usually write: "Look into it and report back." Or simply: "Report.".

In fact it is not so easy to get Putin's signature. The situation has changed -even compared with this past summer. All the sources in the Kremlin and the White House assert that the prime minister does very little work. "Something needs to be decided, but he is not there," a Kremlin staffer confides, "that is to say, he is nowhere to be found, and (chief of Putin's bodyguard Viktor) Zolotov says: I don't know what to advise you, I'm not going to harass him." A situation has apparently been repeated twice where financial speculators were buying up currency and the Central Bank delayed reducing the ruble rate of exchange for 24 hours because they could not find Putin.

An article in Vedomosti, however, doesn't see an conflict between the two leaders but notes that Medvedev does look to Putin for advice, if not approval. Part of the reason is because the latter has more experience.  The other is that Putin commands more political authority in the country. Another reason is that each side of the tandem has their own spheres of influence.  Putin is tackling the economy-"the market considers him in charge"-and he has the authority to subordinate Russia national and regional elite.  Medvedev' sphere is centered around legal reform-amending the constitution and fighting corruption.  Medvedev has also exercised his power to appoint governors, the most recent being making former SPS Nikita Belykh the govenor of Kirov.

Nezavmisimaya gazeta puts the point simply:

Western analysts can't cease their interest: Who's in charge? When will Medvedev cast off Putin? or the opposite, when will Putin return to power? They are naive people, though very intelligent.  They don't understand that Medvedev and Putin are allies.

Indeed. For some reason, Western analysis fail to see that Russia's ruling elite are a team.  It's not a team of equal players for sure, but a team nonetheless. And as a ruling elite they have corporate interests that they share with a constituency-Russia's business elite.

You raise a good question about the Oligarchs, though.  It's not clear Putin was ever concerned about the legitimacy of their business, just that the state profit from it.  You seem to be suggesting they're going rogue.  I just can't imagine this was done without the explicit consent of the government.  So why did they consent?  They thought it politically sound?  I mean, it's not like the country is in a state of chaos like in the 90's.  The gov. is not a charade.  In fact, it's usually argued they have too much control, not the opposite.  Maybe they just couldn't find Putin. ;)"

You know, I was thinking about it, about the whole Russia v. Ukraine, and Euope and NATO being on the side of Ukraine thing this morning, and it occurred to me that it is quite possible, even probably, that Russia more than any country is invested in the welfare of Ukraine, not Europe or NATO.  To us, Ukraine is a pawn.  To Russia, it's a step-child.  


Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 03:59:02 PM EST
  1. I agree that Putin and Medvedev are a team. I would not know where to put people like Sechin, though - or the ohe siloviki types

  2. I agree that Russia cares a lot more about Ukraine's welfare than Europe.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 04:02:58 PM EST
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Does Russia really care about Ukraine's welfare?  In a Stalinesque way? The strategic importance is clear but there is little evidence that Russian leaders have ever cared about their own people's welfare, let alone that of neighbouring states whom they accuse of being ungrateful and disloyal.
by russellw on Thu Jan 8th, 2009 at 04:49:28 AM EST
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With blanket statements like "there is little evidence that Russian leaders have ever cared about their own people's welfare" you're not going to get very far.

Maybe Yeltsin cared but was just an incompetent drunk, but Putin has done more for the welfare of the Russian people than Yeltsin except possibly for the latter stepping on a tank in 1991 (forgetting for a minute than he later sent tanks to bomb the Parliament). And Gorbachev also did care but  was in an impossible situation. And Khrushev cared enough to roll back Stalinism... And then there's Peter the Great.

Whether it is for misplaced reasons (I say panslavism, you say imperialism) or not, Russia does care about Belarus and Ukraine, and also about the millions of ethnic Russians in the former Soviet republics.

Now, you may not like their style but, come on!

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 8th, 2009 at 05:04:26 AM EST
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Well you know you had me with your first sentence, which I can't really defend and was of course not intended to be taken that literally; but then you spoil it by suggesting that Putin's improvements are motivated by something other than self-interest.  
by russellw on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:33:18 AM EST
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I won't deny Putin's self-interest. But he has other motivations. You have to admit his has been a relatively enlightened self-interest from the point of view of ordinary Russians, if his approval ratings are anything to go by. Compare and contrast with Bush the Lesser's unenlightened self-interest and approval ratings.

I am as appalled as the next person by some of the things that have been going on in Russia under Putin re: human and political rights, press freedom, and the way terrorism and separatism have been handled, etc, but analysis of Russia which starts from the premise that Putin is the devil gets us nowhere.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:08:48 AM EST
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Unfortunately I don't have to admit any such thing.  I hope you are right and I am wrong, but Putin's approval ratings seem to me to stem from a collective Russian inferiority complex that manifests itself in a compelling and overly romantic desire to be seen as a great nation.  Which it is of course by many measures, but politically and militarily its best days are behind it. Economically only time will tell, but what used to be its cheapest and most abundant resource, people, is now in decline and widespread maladministration has led to a squandering of natural resources.

With a declining Russian population of course the people as well as the territory of Ukraine are attractive to Putin, but only as yet more resources to be exploited, I fear.

by russellw on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:24:15 AM EST
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A compelling and romantic desire to be seen as a great nation - not to mention a squandering of natural resources - are hardly uniquely Russian failings.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:57:25 AM EST
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Poemless:  this is an interesting series of observations.
In fact it is not so easy to get Putin's signature. The situation has changed -even compared with this past summer. All the sources in the Kremlin and the White House assert that the prime minister does very little work. "Something needs to be decided, but he is not there," a Kremlin staffer confides, "that is to say, he is nowhere to be found, and (chief of Putin's bodyguard Viktor) Zolotov says: I don't know what to advise you, I'm not going to harass him." A situation has apparently been repeated twice where financial speculators were buying up currency and the Central Bank delayed reducing the ruble rate of exchange for 24 hours because they could not find Putin.
Not to deny that Putin and Medvedev are a team, even if unequal, but it may be that Putin is frustrated by having to work through someone rather than having more direct control.  Could he be having "buyers remorse" over the situation that has resulted from staying within the formal bounds of their constitution?  And/or, could this be producing mood swings or other mood problems that make it more difficult for him to function? SAD? If so that could be further complicating efforts to control an already difficult situation.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 05:52:57 PM EST
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OMG are you diagnosing Vovochka with seasonal affective disorder?  Maybe he just get's depressed and turns off the gas to Ukraine each year?  LOL.  Poor Mr Putin.  He needs one of those special sunlight lamps.    

And I thought the Russkie Newsweek story was silly!

Mind you that anyone could grow up in St. Petes and have SAD and live to the age of 56 w/o committing suicide is miraculous, really.  You know, it is like dark there half the year...

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 05:59:55 PM EST
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Now, now.  SAD was only the last of a series of possibilities I set forth, certainly not a diagnosis.  But people can be affected by it even if they are from polar latitudes and it is not necessarily incapacitating.  Then perhaps the reports of him being unavailable, etc. are just gossip or misdirection.  But Putin is human and subject to frailties, even if he is your hero. :-)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 06:07:21 PM EST
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To us, Ukraine is a pawn.  To Russia, it's a step-child.  

Very much agree – but you know the West.

by Humbug (mailklammeraffeschultedivisstrackepunktde) on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 at 05:57:05 PM EST
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