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I have two words for you: peak gas.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 08:52:16 AM EST
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And how do you imagine we can make the best use of this finite gas resource unless we have a mechanism for adequately valuing it?

Copenhagen is currently an argument between cripples fighting over a crutch ie between developed and developing energy user nations.

Little is being said about the catastrophic wastefulness of energy producer nations. That is the low-hanging fruit, and as I said here, I think it is through the unitisation/monetisation of energy that we may achieve an optimal outcome.

Natural gas is homogeneous in the way that other fuels are not; does not have the same established marketplace, and vested interests; and would take relatively few nations (Russia, Qatar, Iran, China, maybe Japan) to kick-start a global market.

Units redeemable in gas have a use as long as the underlying gas exists. But don't forget (say) biomethane, and don't forget the potential use of synthetic gas as an energy vector, as is proposed for ammonia by strandedwind.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 09:38:43 AM EST
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the only thing that can be sold is gas delivered somewhere - which means that gas is fundamentally an infrastructure business, not a commodity business (it can be one when the infrastructure is in place, but as you say, there is no such thing for gas, globally).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 12:29:17 PM EST
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is this also problematic because gas shipping terminals are very expensive and difficult to make safe, as well as being a terror dream target?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 12:59:50 PM EST
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I don't think they are more expensive or difficult to make safe than a large chemical plant.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 02:37:52 PM EST
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Like Bhopal, you mean?
iirc, the ships themselves are very vulnerable too.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 04:56:17 PM EST
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Not every chemical plant is like Bhopal. And not every industrial accident goes (shoud go?) unrepaired.

I'm sure you can find examples of disaster caused by organic farming (a humanure spill upriver of a drinkable water uptake? :-)

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 07:37:27 PM EST
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A Unit redeemable for gas in a Gas Pool needs the participation of the producers and consumers in the market - by subscribing to the market user agreement - to be effective.

Transparency of the Units in issue, as is a "framework of trust" and the need for due diligence in ensuring suppliers' capability to supply.

The proposal creates virtual financial markets in gas Units which are linked to, but which do not affect, the underlying physical market. The physical market price formation for gas, and the price at which producers sell Units into a "Gas Pool" are an interesting subject.

Infrastructure such as terminals, pipelines and shipping could gradually be assimilated into a global monopoly in common ownership, and operated by a networked consortium of service providers receiving an agreed proportion of gas sale revenues.

I don't know exactly how the market would develop globally in practice, but I am quite sure that the commercial logic for consumers and producers alike is compelling.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 02:50:34 PM EST
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