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The point is that, if each of the prospective buyers has cash, they can have an auction and whoever is willing to pay more for it gets the unit of product, assuming they bid high enough to at least exceed the price at which the supplier offers the unit.

If all you have is a redeemable scrip with a face value of 1 unit, you can't have an auction.

I don't know whether you can even have an auction if there is some redeemable unit-valued scrip left outstanding because if I hold the unit I can always outbid everyone else (if you bid €10 I can bid €11 and then pay with one unit of scrip rather than cash) but if there are two units of scrip outstanding there can be no winning bid.

I guess you can always do it pro-rata. You specify that any scrip presented on the third friday of the month before close of business will be redeemed pro-rata at auction before any cash bids. You also specify that you'll be putting up for auction no less than a set amount of units of production (in my example, 10 per month).

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 07:38:00 PM EST
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There is no auction in relation to the redemption, but there may perhaps be a continuous or semi-continuous auction which establishes the physical market price of electricity.

If the Unit market price is above the physical market price then a consumer will not buy Units to redeem them, since fiat money is cheaper to use.

He will buy as many Units at the exact physical market price as he can use in the spot period. He may buy more Units if the price is below the market price and he has a future use for Units, but the price he pays will reflect both fiat money interest rates to the expected date of redemption, and expected energy price inflation.

Scrip is presented bilaterally to your supplier if that is in your interest. There is no need for an auction. You cannot redeem more Units than you have had energy in supply.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 at 09:50:01 PM EST
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And this differs from ordinary forward contracts in what way, again?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Oct 3rd, 2009 at 04:33:22 AM EST
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Units are undated. Forwards are dated.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 04:14:07 AM EST
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Yup.

A banknote is undated, too: it's just that it is redeemable for....errrr....another banknote.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 06:41:40 AM EST
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Unless it's used by someone to pay a debt to the Central Bank, at which point it could be taken out of circulation.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 06:57:34 AM EST
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Technically - or not so technically, in reality - it's redeemable as a promise, and the faith that someone else will honour the promise.

Money is just a ritualised IOU.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 07:57:16 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
Money is just a ritualised IOU.
Money is whatever the government will accept/demand in payment of taxes. You could make cow dung valuable if you decreed you would collect taxes by weight of manure.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 08:51:43 AM EST
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Migeru:
collect taxes by weight of manure.

Best description of a market economy ever.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 5th, 2009 at 11:29:48 AM EST
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