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They must assume that they don't know better than the government. This is a complex, technical issue, supposedly.

I am mystified that governments aren't calling the banks' bluff

When asked whether he would implement a Nama-style bailout for the banks, he responded: ``No, this is the kind of highway robbery which we see happening all over the world, with guns pointing at the heads of the political leaders and the bankers claiming the sky will fall down and the economy will be devastated unless they get this money."
Why would a government stand for this? Why would the finance minister? Why would the central banker?

What is going on? Is everyone with a degree in economics incapable of thiking outside the mental-capture box?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 15th, 2009 at 10:33:38 AM EST
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Of course, you could go all the banana republic way and claim the reason is that the primary loyalty of the government is directed not at the country, but at special interests (financial in this case), which would mean the governments are poulated by traitors.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Oct 15th, 2009 at 11:16:27 AM EST
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I don't have evidence to support such a claim, neither do I consider it entirely credible.  I am also looking for a more specific explanation than the more generic explanation I have offered elsewhere.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Oct 15th, 2009 at 11:26:25 AM EST
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Frank, ---none of us will ever have such evidence. What might such "evidence" consist of? Videotape of an exchange of money? It's a package of actions that represent a common objective of predation in which all that's needed to precipitate mutually supportive statements, policy, is a commonality of interest, of point of view.
Circumstantial is IT.
But a hell of a lot of citizens are in the slam on circumstantial evidence far less convincing.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Wed Oct 21st, 2009 at 07:49:58 AM EST
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I think you will find a very good, and a very funny explanation of why he has done what he has done at Nama is rescue plan for the elite  .  It's so good I am thinking of doing a LQD on it...

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Oct 21st, 2009 at 07:27:07 PM EST
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If we look at it from the other side and check the Shock Doctrine the keys appear to monopolize the solutions through the constant narration drawl of the spin machine and then target key persons. The key persons would be individuals that can be swayed and who can then browbeat their parties/ministers into following them without necessarily knowing the actual plan.

I do not have the Shock Doctrine at hand right now but I think it was in Bolivia that an incoming leftist government started with an extreme project of privatization. This was started as soon as the leftist president was elected, by inviting him and his closest to a small conference with the richest people in the country and their pet economists. There it was explained that crises was bigger then expected and a radical project was needed to avoid complete collapse. Fortunately the economists had a plan ready to go.

The president and his closest men were convinced and when at the first meeting of the new cabinet they dropped the program on the table and declared that this was the plan and anyone that did not agree could resign as minister right there and then. (The sources was interviews some 15 years later with some of the ministers.)

Generally, the stick is the threat of economic collapse, the carrots are access to markets, capital (in the form of credits) and also personal economic success for the key persons (how much so depending on the level of corruption).

If anyone have not read the Shock Doctrine by now, you really should.

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Oct 16th, 2009 at 10:56:39 AM EST
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Additionally, this kind of meetings are kept of the record and their actual existence (and threats made) must not be published lest the country will collapse in economic turmoil.

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Oct 16th, 2009 at 11:00:57 AM EST
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