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... autotuner - according to the Video Song rules you can do any production trick you want to, as long as at some point you show it being done.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:18:36 PM EST
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Melodyne is the tool of choice in the studios I visit. You can 'quantize'  a track i.e. autotune it, but to melodyne it means you retain the entire envelope of the sound as you shift it to any fraction of a note. Quite complex harmonies can be post-produced - for any musical sound source.

And loop technology is way past simple repetition.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:38:04 PM EST
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If they use it to manipulate the sound, its supposed to show up on screen sometime. I don't know anything beyond Audacity, so I wouldn't know what to look for.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 12:49:57 PM EST
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Tricky to deconstruct. Although it is possible to record all actions upon a file. But retro-fitting i.e. analysis of a mixed down sound file is notoriously difficult. It's something I tried to do as a producer for analogue recordings: find out how someone else's musical 'effect' was achieved and reproduce it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 03:15:33 PM EST
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Thing is, if they are playing by the rules (have no idea whether they made up the rules), there's a shot somewhere in the clip of them doing whatever they are doing. EG, when they do the scratch effect with the patch box, they show it.

If they did the scratch effect with some other device or on the computer, and just pretended to do it with the patch box, that would be cheating. If they made a click sound electronically and showed it as closing a classic If they muffled the bass drum (their September cover) electronically but showed it being done with a muppet hand puppet, that would be cheating. And confer where they have the keyboard that is clearly computer filtered, they have both the keyboard and the laptop in one of the shots.

Its all samples mixed together, but they claim, at least, to show where all the of the samples come from in the video.

... though maybe La Vie en Rose is more apropos ...


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 04:21:23 PM EST
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Recording, EQ and such which weren't shown - probably done in Logic, which has quite a good pitch correction plug-in.

I'd bet on the opening harmony being autotuned, because it's just a little too perfect and shiny. But after that it gets less clear. There's quite a bit of timing slop on the vocals, which suggests live recording for at least some of the harmony lines.

Not that I'd want to be too picky - it's a very good cover, and I like it a lot more than the original.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 04:11:32 PM EST
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Based on her Edith Piaf, which can't possibly be auto-tuned, I think the lass just has decent pitch.

And of course, there's no promise to show every sample they recorded, just the ones they used.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Oct 20th, 2009 at 04:24:32 PM EST
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