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Putin's France visit sparks alarm over possible warship purchase | France 24
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin heads to France on Thursday for a two-day visit aimed at improving bilateral cooperation in the auto and energy industries. But his trip has set off alarm bells in some parts of Europe amid reports that Moscow also has plans to purchase a French-made warship that would significantly boost Russia's military capabilities...

French daily Le Figaro quotes Alex Rondell, president of the Georgian Foundation for Strategic and International Studies, as saying that the Mistral purchase is merely Moscow's latest attempt to regain its status as a superpower and reassert control over its former Soviet satellites. He, for one, has no doubts as to Russia's plans for the warship...

Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet told journalists on Tuesday that his country wanted to know if the potential sale would include "top military technology". Lithuanian foreign ministry spokesman Rolandas Kacinskas on Wednesday told AFP that Vilnius was also seeking clarification from France, on "exactly what kind of equipment it plans to sell and what it can be used for".



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Nov 27th, 2009 at 01:29:52 PM EST
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the Mistral purchase is merely Moscow's latest attempt to regain its status as a superpower and reassert control over its former Soviet satellites.

Why is the purchase of one ship important?  

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 07:24:39 AM EST
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Id be similarly sceptical that one French ship is the difference between superpower status and lying in the shadows of hegemony.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 08:01:13 AM EST
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Don't you get it?
It's the narrative, man, the narrative...

Doesn't matter that Putin mostly discussed support of French carmaker Renault to embattled and heavily indebted Russian carmaker AvtoVAZ.

I meam, come on, who cares about French cars or even Russian cars? Not enough rissrack.

Super-duper high-tech warships that can single handedly restore superpower status to the Russkies with a nefarious plot from the cheese eating surrender monkeys; now, we have liftoff...

Russia, Renault Seal Deal on AvtoVAZ Cash, Technology (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Russia pledged to inject 50 billion rubles ($1.7 billion) into OAO AvtoVAZ in return for technology from 25 percent shareholder Renault SA.

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin promised the cash during a visit to Paris and Renault agreed to contribute engineering know-how worth at least 240 million euros ($358 million).

"Renault remains our strategic partner," Putin said after the accord was signed outside Paris.



Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 09:09:59 AM EST
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IIRC it's not just one ship, but options for 4-5 ships on top of that. The reason they want to buy French is because Mistral is a good product and the Soviet naval industry is not only completely decrepit, it's located in the Ukraine.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 10:11:04 AM EST
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Possibly: technology.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 12:36:48 PM EST
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The no.1 stupid thing here is that if you want to invade Lithuania, you don't do it with amphibious assault ships, do you? Likewise with Georgia.

Lithuania is playing the Rysskräck-card to get support and sympathy, even if this issue is not relevant to Lithuanias security. Though it is for Sweden's...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 10:09:22 AM EST
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Quite frankly, it's perfect to invade Sweden. Mistral can carry an entire tank battalion, another infantry battalion and dozens of helicopters. Five ships like that, a number of civilan merchantmen, and a dozen or two surface escorts and you have one hell of an invasion cookie. Just like old times. ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 03:56:20 PM EST
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Add the four Ropucha class landing ships recently rebased to the Baltic Fleet and you'll get enough armored vehicles across the pond to mechanize at least three of those infanty battalions.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Nov 28th, 2009 at 04:02:27 PM EST
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