Another issue is the Hoover Dam. If Mead drops below 1,050 ft, the Dam shuts down. It's currently at about 1,090 ft.
That's my understanding of it anyway, but western ET'ers would likely know better than I. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
If Mead drops below 1,050 ft, the Dam shuts down. It's currently at about 1,090 ft.
Migeru:
Bloomberg: Venezuela to Save Water, Power as El Nino Curbs Rain (October 22)Venezuela will impose conservation measures for water and electricity because the El Nino weather pattern has reduced rainfall, affecting hydroelectric stations and drinking-water reservoirs. ... Chavez is trying to head off possible political fallout from power disruptions, which have become more common in recent years as growing energy use outstripped expansion in the nation's generation and transmission network. Water levels in reservoirs on the Caroni River, which generate 70 percent of the country's electricity, are "near the alert level," Chavez said.
Venezuela will impose conservation measures for water and electricity because the El Nino weather pattern has reduced rainfall, affecting hydroelectric stations and drinking-water reservoirs. ... Chavez is trying to head off possible political fallout from power disruptions, which have become more common in recent years as growing energy use outstripped expansion in the nation's generation and transmission network. Water levels in reservoirs on the Caroni River, which generate 70 percent of the country's electricity, are "near the alert level," Chavez said.
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Chavez is trying to head off possible political fallout from power disruptions, which have become more common in recent years as growing energy use outstripped expansion in the nation's generation and transmission network.
Water levels in reservoirs on the Caroni River, which generate 70 percent of the country's electricity, are "near the alert level," Chavez said.
If people don't get that, they're in for a world of hurt down the line, unless they can somehow talk the Midwest into pumping water down there from the Great Lakes (an idea which Midwesterners understandably have no interest in whatsoever). Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
they're in for a world of hurt down the line, unless they can somehow talk the Midwest into pumping water down there from the Great Lakes
Toke-in' on the Funny Weed there Drew? THAT ain't gonna happen. California has already tried to pump water down from British Columbia and the local pols, who were thinking about it, were damn near tarred and feathered by the populace.
Don't know much about, tho'.
Water shortage is far from anyone's mind on the banks of the mighty Rhone River as it surges from the high glaciers of Switzerland down through eastern France. Along its 500-mile route, it is fed by many tributaries until the river spills, largely untapped, into the Mediterranean Sea. But along the same sea, scarcity of fresh water is an increasingly nagging issue farther west, in the arid regions of eastern Spain. Planners predict that in the area around Barcelona, Spain's second-largest city and the main seat of industry, the shortage of drinking water may become severe. So Barcelona has developed a daring plan: to build a pipeline through southern France and the Pyrenees to carry water from the Rhone River to Spain. The 200-mile aqueduct could provide water for more than 4.5 million people, who would pay for the project with higher water bills. Although the plan is still far from approved, it is the first time a pipeline of this scale to carry water from one country to another is being seriously considered in Europe.
But along the same sea, scarcity of fresh water is an increasingly nagging issue farther west, in the arid regions of eastern Spain. Planners predict that in the area around Barcelona, Spain's second-largest city and the main seat of industry, the shortage of drinking water may become severe.
So Barcelona has developed a daring plan: to build a pipeline through southern France and the Pyrenees to carry water from the Rhone River to Spain. The 200-mile aqueduct could provide water for more than 4.5 million people, who would pay for the project with higher water bills. Although the plan is still far from approved, it is the first time a pipeline of this scale to carry water from one country to another is being seriously considered in Europe.
Going to need the Rhone valley for food production.
Spain has the entire Atlantic Ocean sitting there. Better to use the money to build desalinization plants. Yes it will be more expensive - but the Portuguese, if they get their act together - should be willing to kick-in some of the money as well. Also some of the costs can be offset with "mining" the sea salt and other minerals that will be left behind once the water is extracted.
Plus, if things are done right, the operation should be fed electricity from that wind power plant you're going to build next door.
But then I'm on drugs I think in Systems, not by problems.
someone has to stand up and say, "Look, this is insane
yeah, everyone needs to stand up about a lot of things, but who's listening?
..apart from the others who stood up too?
it's way beyond madness, have your change ready.
(miss that sig already!) ~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.
Talk about being underwater on your loan!
There is also a large subdivision in Colorado Springs where they messed up the water rights and basically don't have any. Be aware when moving west that we have two things you don't have back east--besides sunny days--which are:
- Separable property rights. You only get the surface rights to your building lot. The Union Pacific railroad probably owns the mineral rights, which means that they can come in and put a gas well in your front yard and there is NOTHING you can do about it. Happens all the time. http://www.hcn.org/issues/328/16489
- A completely separate legal and judicial system controlling water. If you put a stone wall or driveway or cute little pond in your yard, you're almost certainly breaking the law, and the law is enforced. Happens all the time. http://www.gazette.com/articles/lot-61473-pond-cracks.html
Not retirement, though. There might not be a Denver by then. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
Here is a view from above of part of the area.
Shortly after I arrived in Tuscon, Az. in 1963 I had a conversation with our neighbor on the corner, who was a hydrologist. He informed me that in the 19th century the water table was at the surface in a great many of the streams and rivers in the area, such as the Santa Cruz, but that by 1963 the City of Tuscon was pumping fossil water from beneath the valley to the west of the Tuscon Mountains, which were the western edge of the city in those days, when the population was ~125,000. The population today is >500,000 and the Central Arizona Project, which was intended to provide an alternative to groundwater pumping, feeds water from the Colorado River, below Hoover Dam. Tuscon has long encouraged low water residential and municipal landscaping, but possibly could better utilize surface run-off from the 10-14" annual rainfall.
A complicating factor is that various records going back hundreds of years, pollen in sediment, tree-ring data, etc, shows that there have been prior episodes of very long El Nino type weather patterns. I love Tuscon and LA, have family in Tuscon and friends in LA but am glad I don't own property in either city, or in Vegas. As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
Tucson has been continuously settled for over 12,000 years.... Tucson, too SAHN or TOO sahn, is one of the oldest towns in the United States. Tucson was originally an Indian village called Stook-zone, meaning water at the foot of black mountain. Hugo O'Conor established the Tucson Presidio in 1775. August 20th, 1775 is considered Tucson's birthday. Spanish settlers arrived in the area in 1776. Tucson officially became part of the United States with the Gadsden Purchase of 1854. Tucson served as capital of the Arizona Territory from 1867 to 1877.
