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I'm not preaching against extensive animal production on marginal land and grassland, or old-style mixed farming. But those are quite enough to provide us with meat and dairy in sufficient quantity.

The rest is a question of industrial process. Grain farmers are a highly-subsidized "top level", integrated into industrial production of concentrates for intensive animal raising integrated into meat packing and supermarket sales.

We can do without this and be in better health.

The problem with it is that eating meat is a matter of prestige, like driving cars. We may wean ourselves off this kind of consumption (to some extent), but people in developing economies want meat like they want cars.

(Nitpick: Europe produces its own maize. But by decades-old international agreements, it does not produce large amounts of soy (even where it could). Intensive animal production here depends on soy imports for protein.)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 03:32:16 PM EST
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Nit-pick away, I didn't know the EU was growing enough now, didn't used to.  The soils comprising the North European plain suck for grain production so it's coming from the traditional grain areas of Poland, Hungary, & etc?

 

by ATinNM on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 05:18:35 PM EST
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By virtue of another long-standing agreement, Spain and Portugal import about 2mn metric tons of US maize. But the EU exports something like that amount elsewhere, so it balances out. Italy and France are the main maize producers.

But I'm not up on the very latest numbers.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 18th, 2009 at 04:19:54 AM EST
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germany, with all her masterful uses of cereals, from the best breads in europe, and beers of international acclaim, was a lousy place to grow grains?

seems a bit off...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Nov 18th, 2009 at 08:31:53 AM EST
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The soils in the Northern European Plain need mucho much fertilizer to 'make a crop.'  I'd have to dig through my references to find the exact soil compositions, the reasons why.
by ATinNM on Wed Nov 18th, 2009 at 11:57:07 AM EST
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1995 SAA Paper

In order to understand how agriculture came to central Europe, it is important to know something of the geography of this region. I prefer to simplify the very complicated patchwork of hills, mountains, plains, and streams into two major landscape zones which have relevance for the study of early European farmers. These are the upland basins drained by the major river systems of central Europe and the flat lowlands of the North European Plain. I am putting aside the mountain chains like the Carpathians, Sudetens, and Harz, and the glacial outwash plains of central Poland and Niedersachsen, for these became of interest to European farming peoples only later. The upland basins of interior central Europe had generally served as traps for wind-blown dust during the last glaciation, which formed the fertile loess soils, while the North European Plain is covered with thinner soils which had been moved around quite a bit by glacial action. In the upland basins, streams formed a dendritic pattern separated by dry watersheds. On the North European Plain, the drainage was the result of glacial action: the bogs and streams that formed in meltwater valleys and kettle lakes, connecting with meandering little rivers and the broad floodplains of major streams like the Oder and Vistula.

Within the upland basins, there was one habitat that was of greatest interest to the early farming populations. This was the valleys of the smaller streams which drained patches of the loess. Loess is fertile but dry, and these stream valleys were oases of moistness from runoff from the adjacent watersheds and from upstream. Early farming populations settled in these habitats along the smaller rivers and creeks. In the lowlands of the North European Plain, there was also one very important habitat. This was among the chains and clusters of lakes left in meltwater valleys and dead-ice features that interrupt patches of ground moraine in several parts of the plain. In some respect, these features are analogues of the upland creeks, in that they are moist habitats in the midst of drier areas of fertile soil.

Physical Geography of Europe

Europe's broad plains curve around the highlands. Scoured by Ice Age glaciers, the North
European Plain
, or Great European Plain, stretches from southeastern England and western France eastward to Poland, Ukraine, and Russia. The plain's fertile soil and wealth of rivers originally drew farmers to the area. The southern edge is especially fertile because deposits of loess, a fine, rich, wind-borne soil, cover it.

Deposits of coal, iron ore, and other minerals found on the North European Plain led to western Europe's industrial development during the 1800s. Today many of Europe's largest cities, such as Paris and Berlin, are located on the plain.

Another fertile plains area, the Great Hungarian Plain, extends from Hungary to Croatia, Serbia, and Romania. Farmers cultivate grains, fruit, and vegetables and raise livestock in the lowlands along the Danube River.

Alemania Historia (english)
Wherever the region's terrain is rolling and drainage is satisfactory, the land is highly productive. This is especially true of the areas that contain a very fertile siltlike loess soil, better than most German soils. Such areas, called Börden (sing., Börde ), are located along the southern edge of the North German Lowland beginning west of the Rhine near the Ruhr Valley and extending eastward and into the Leipzig Basin. The Magdeburg Börde is the best known of these areas. Other Börden are located near Frankfurt am Main, northern Baden-Württemberg, and in an area to the north of Ulm and Munich. Because the areas with loess soil also have a moderate continental climate with a long growing season, they are considered Germany's breadbasket.


En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 18th, 2009 at 12:08:28 PM EST
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I'm not preaching against extensive animal production on marginal land and grassland, or old-style mixed farming.

Didn't think you were.  

 

by ATinNM on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 05:41:48 PM EST
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