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Henry admitted the ball did strike his hand and claims he told the referee, who chose to allow the goal to stand.

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"It was a handball, but I'm not the ref. I told (the referee) but he said to

me the same: `You are not the ref."'

WTF?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 04:59:04 AM EST
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If Henry told the referee, kudos to him, but that makes the referee's decision totally incomprehensible

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 05:09:26 AM EST
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I suppose it depends on when he told the ref.  Refs are very reluctant to change their minds once the have made a decision.  The most obvious thing would have been for him to signal to his hand to the ref the moment the goal was scored - and that didn't happen according to the footage I saw.  

However in fairness to Henry - players cheat and dive all the time and if they succeed in fooling the referee it is (almost) considered fair game - although the "anglos" like to get sniffy with the "Latins" claiming they have brought this to a fine art and undermined the spirit of the game.

One of the reasons I prefer Rugby is that there is a lot less play-acting going on - it is against the players code of honour - although it has been creeping in a bit more of late as the game gets more "professional" - witness "bloodgate" in England when Harlequins used artificial blood to simulate an injury in a critical match against Leinster.

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 05:18:28 AM EST
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Once the referee blows his whistle to signal a goal, the deal is done. He can choose to not "call" the goal, pending analysis - including video footage. But this referee "called" the goal & that's that.
by vladimir on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 05:47:06 AM EST
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The referee blows the whistle to stop play, and then he calls the goal or not. So there is always time for the decision to be reviewed before play is resumed.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 06:19:05 AM EST
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Referee may change decision before restarting the game.

FIFA Laws of the Game

The decisions of the referee regarding facts connected with play, including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match, are fi nal.

The referee may only change a decision on realising that it is incorrect or, at his discretion, on the advice of an assistant referee or the fourth official, provided that he has not restarted play or terminated the match.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 08:34:04 AM EST
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From what I read, it should read "I told (Richard Dunne)after the game, but he said..."

So, he didn't tell the referee during the game, but an Irish player after the game.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 at 07:26:45 AM EST
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