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Bank of England extends quantitative easing to £200bn | Business | guardian.co.uk

The Bank of England will expand its programme of money creation by £25bn over the next three months to boost Britain's recession-hit economy, Threadneedle Street announced today as it left interest rates unchanged again.

Warning that UK banks are still failing to provide enough credit to businesses and households, the Bank said it would increase the size of quantitative easing (QE) to £200bn.

The Bank's nine-strong monetary policy committee also pegged bank rate at its record low level of 0.5%, where it has been since March. It said cheap borrowing and QE were needed to prevent inflation falling below its 2% target.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 01:46:23 PM EST
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Why do they keep saying they're injecting it into the economy when they're simply giving it to the finance industry to play pass the parcel with until they've leeched all the bonuses from it.

It never makes it into the economy, so how can it help keep the economy going ?

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 05:07:11 PM EST
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What, the finance industry is not part of the economy?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 05:16:20 PM EST
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No, the finance industry is a parasite on the economy. The government put money in because they labour under the delusion that this money will be parcelled out into the real economy from bankers. But actually they gave it to financiers who have captured the banks who use the money for other darker purposes.

In finance, money doesn't enter into the normal currents of the economy. It is simply passed from incestuous hand to incestuous hand, each transaction shedding fees and charges until there is nothing left of the original capital. This is then hived off in tax free bonuses to Monaco or the channel Is, never to be seen again.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 05:36:08 PM EST
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I believe you did once have a mortgage?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 05:46:42 PM EST
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I believe you did once have a mortgage?

But that did not come from money created by QE. The QE money, at least in the US, appears mostly to be intended for solvency repair. Sort of like putting flotation devices around a ship with a damaged hull to give the crew time to make repairs.  They can't use it to make loans because then they would be insolvent.  Besides, if they did, that could cause inflation.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 10:11:08 PM EST
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Oh, wait. It seems that US banks, at least, have put some of the QE money into the stock and commodity markets.  Now stocks are supposed to go up, so that is o.k.  Mission Accomplished!  Commodities are a problem, as they include oil.  Non-energy commodities are less of a problem, as manufacturers aren't manufacturing much.  These commodities are just being used as a store of value, perhaps.  But at least the TBTFs solved the "no credit worthy borrower" problem, no?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 10:27:51 PM EST
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They could have gone for a good bank/bad bank solution...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 04:32:25 AM EST
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There's no such thing as a bad bank. All banks are good, by definition.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 08:41:56 AM EST
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It would have to be a pretend "bad bank".

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 12:10:59 PM EST
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As in a "good cop/bad cop" routine?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 12:14:25 PM EST
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And of course the question remains: "Who, if either, is really the "good" one?"

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 01:22:37 PM EST
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