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To argue a lack of proven competence over an extended period of time is not the same as arguing for a Big Swinging Dick.  Let's get away from that false dichotomy.  Neither Van Rompuy or Ashton have a track record of arguing for and articulating the interests of the European project on a world stage for any length of time.  And yes, the job may entail upsetting a Brown or a Sarkosy sometime if they engage in some stupid adventure in Afganistan or (almost anywhere - in Sarkozy's case) which has the potential to divide/damage the EU.  How do we know Van Rompuy/Ashton would be up to that job?

Maintaining the status quo or appeasing everyone for the sake of a cosy consensus is not always the right course to take, and it can be argued that it is hard choices which will define the EU as much as technocratic efficiency in the longer term.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 06:16:33 AM EST
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The ideal candidate wasn't an option for this round. They would have to be an anti-Blair, or an anti-Sarkozy, or perhaps an ant-Burlesquoni - charismatic, aggressive, but non-psychotic, and dedicated entirely to the forces of good.

There is no one in mainstream European politics with those qualifications.

So Europe's lapdog status continues for now, at least until the current generation of Atlanticists dies out and is replaced by fresh blood.

The best we can hope for is to start finding and supporting the fresh blood, with a view to 2020 or 2030.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 06:22:58 AM EST
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And if such a person existed, the governments wouldn't let her work against the US anyway. The problem is the zeitgeist, not the person.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 06:29:24 AM EST
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which is why the current low-key choices are actually a good thing for Europe, by at least minimizing the chances for big blowups between the EU and big countries.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 06:32:18 AM EST
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The current low-key choices are good for Europe internally as a holding action, while the EU coheres. Apart from his stated hostility to Turkey, Van Rompuy seems to be perfect, or at least good enough, for that.

But there's a continuing tension between scrappy charisma-politics, which is what happens at the national level in the EU, and the amorphous and not very well-defined push towards federalisation.

At some point those two trends are going to be personalised in a very public clash.

Blair would have forced that collision ahead of time, which would have been unpleasant for everyone, but interesting to watch.

The democratic problem hasn't been solved - Van Rompuys doesn't give the proles a reason to believe in the EU. That's not a huge problem now, but it's going to start becoming a problem within a term or two.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:36:55 AM EST
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Assuming there's a push towards federalisation.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:39:30 AM EST
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I think it's usually called 'closer cooperation.'
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 09:20:30 AM EST
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There will be a push towards either federalisation or split-up. Having a (mostly) federal monetary policy without a complementing independent federal fiscal policy is inherently unstable. So either you need a federal fiscal policy, or the € needs to go away.

Besides, there are real issues of infrastructure and regional development that would benefit from federal involvement - high-capacity/high speed railways, water management along the Rhine and Donau rivers, fishing and environmental protection in the Mediterranean and Baltic seas, trans-European communications, phone and internet backbones, trans-European power generation and distribution and so on and so forth and etcetera.

Nationalists of all flavours can bitch and moan as much as they like - but geography and infrastructure are more powerful drivers in political unification than zeitgeist.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 09:47:48 PM EST
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Van Rompuys doesn't give the proles a reason to believe in the EU.

Nor should he -- I am more concerned that MEPs and Barroso fail to.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:41:52 AM EST
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