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Mary Robinson has said she does not want the job. Tarja Halonen and Dalia Grybauskaite both have jobs.  Why on Earth would they want to give up being presidents of their respective countries to take this position?  Crikey, I wouldn't.

Neelie Kroes I had to look up.  It seems to me that has no real experience in diplomacy or foreign relations, other than her current position as Commissioner for Competition, in which her mandate is largely limited to business and commerce -- hardly the profile I'd want for this position, but I'm not European, so what do I know.  As a side note, the Wiki entry says she's "a confidant of Ayaan Hirsi Ali," and persuaded her to join the VVD, which IMHO should be a huge mark against her.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:45:10 AM EST
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Why on Earth would they want to give up being presidents of their respective countries to take this position?

(Just nitpicking: van Rompuy and Barroso did gave up their PM jobs. Though, for fairness, Barroso did so to flee a sinking ship...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:48:26 AM EST
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They gave up positions as heads of state to become presidents of the European Commission and the European Council.  Do you think either would have done so to become foreign ministers?
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:55:17 AM EST
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They may or may not have been persuadable.  I don't know if any were asked.  My only point here is that to argue that Baroness Ashton was appointed in large part because she was British and a women is not necessarily a sexist "token" women argument.  If someone wants to make the argument that she is the best possible High Rep for the EU at the moment regardless of nationality or gender, then I am happy to listen to that argument - but I have seen no one even try to make that case.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:53:25 AM EST
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You're the one who used the term "token," not me.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:58:17 AM EST
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Wait, sorry, it was Jerome who used it, apologies.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 08:01:02 AM EST
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No problem - I don't think Jerome should have used the word "token" as it is generally a red flag word for sexism.  However Jerome has acknowledged her competence - much more than me - and my concerns are centred around a lack of experience/achievement at the highest level and a lack of a history of successful political engagement with any electorate.  Neither necessarily mean she won't end up doing a good job.  However the reasons for he appointment won't necessarily increase popular identification with EU institutions either, and that was one of the issues Lisbon was supposed to address.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 08:45:23 AM EST
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