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And happy birthday C.H.  You of course know that the Cherokee were the southernmost branch of the Mohawk Confederation.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 3rd, 2009 at 02:25:04 AM EST
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Hold on there Geez, Cherokee were never part of the Confederacy. The Tuscarora were allowed to join after being booted from their homeland, thus the Six Nations.  in the middle 1700s there were alliances running south into Cherokee country, sometimes strong but often tenuous. To anthros, these alliances made the Six Nations into some sort of roman empire, a myth thankfully now buried.  There were several attempts in Revolutionary War times to form a pan indian alliance, all doomed to succumb to westward expansion.

And while Levon remained true to his Arkie roots (there's great video of the band in mamma's kitchen), he's lived in Woodstock almost nonstop since the late sixties.  Part of his beautiful barn has always been his recording studio, where the monthly MIDNIGHT RAMBLE takes place.  Imagine being in the audience of just 2 hundred or so while the greats of amurkan music join him live.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Dec 3rd, 2009 at 05:26:33 AM EST
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Crazy Horse:
The Tuscarora were allowed to join after being booted from their homeland, thus the Six Nations

That was the story as I knew it. The Tuscarora were a way south in what was in the process of becoming North Carolina (early eighteenth century). When they'd had enough of playing nice with settlers who stole their children and "squatted" their land, and they came off worse in fighting (glorified by the name of the Tuscarora War), they migrated north, invited by the Five Nations as their brothers of the Sixth. Events that took place between about 1710 and 1720.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 3rd, 2009 at 06:39:32 AM EST
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Genau.  Strangely, nations such as various Delaware were taken without the elevated status of the Tuscarora. At the Six Nations reserve in Canada, elders still debate what was really happening.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Dec 3rd, 2009 at 06:53:41 AM EST
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Almost as soon as I had posted the comment I thought, "Idiot! You shouldn't have said Confederation. They were the southernmost branch of the same language group and overall culture is more like it. They were too far away to be part of the Confederation, even had they wanted, and they did pretty well by themselves up through the 18th century, when the ravages of imported disease shook their self confidence and diminished their numbers.

George Washington was quite happy to negotiate a treaty with the Cherokee to secure his flank and he honored the treaty through his administration, as best he could. That perhaps gave them a false impression of what dealing with the United States would be like.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 3rd, 2009 at 10:37:51 AM EST
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