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Saying something has "a history" doesn't mean you have to tell the official History of Spain from the Treaty of Utrecht on. It means it has a past.

Is a negative view of Catalans among other Spanish people only a very recent phenomenon due to right-wing demagogy (and dumb Catalan oligarchs), or does it reach further back?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 27th, 2009 at 05:28:35 AM EST
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quite recent, very recent i nost of its forms.

having said that, you normally try what once worked in some way or form. So franco activist were against Madrid and catalonia, pre-franco times there was some animosity too but it was about anarchism-socialism-liberalism-authoritanism more than anything else..

It is a clear example of Levi_Strauss ideas, take a basic myth and make simple logical steps to adapt it.

So the basic mythology has history, the present virulent form is new.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Fri Nov 27th, 2009 at 05:39:21 AM EST
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Ignorance-covered envy.

Sociologically, Madrid's arrogant view as the unquestionable center of power is made up by large numbers of poverty-stricken rural migrants that have worked hard (in appalling conditions during the dictatorship) to reach a comfortable financial position in democracy, without equally improving their educational level.  These two-three generations are easy prey for the PP pathology that repeats 'Catalunya has it easy with 'our' money and that's why you can't have more ... services'.  

Catalunya is prosperous and has an image of being entrepenurial, persistent, productive and innovative, but not submissive.  What's not to envy and reject?  

Add to that the Catalan nasal speech and entonation that can be spotted immediately, plus their demand for equal political-economic treatment and you have the perfect 'other' in a knee-jerk brain.  

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Fri Dec 4th, 2009 at 06:25:02 PM EST
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"The negative view of Catalans among other Spanish people" is not restricted to "Madrid's arrogant view" - it is widespread and I am not even sure the view originates in Madrid though it is true that Madrid has become a PP stronghold in the last 20 years. There is enough hostile rhetoric between Catalonia and Valencia over the Catalan/Valencian language, and between Catalonia and the poorer regions of Extremadura and Andalusia which happen to have provided much of the immigrant labour that fuelled Catalonia's economic development over more than a century...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 03:10:39 PM EST
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