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By that definition, the US is an international organization.

Article V, U.S. Constitution

The Constitution of the United States

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Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.



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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 04:11:00 PM EST
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The EU doesn't have The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 04:20:07 PM EST
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But it has The Council, whenever it unanimously deems it necessary, shall propose new Treaties to supplement and replace the Treaties.

Would the US be an international organization if only the Senate could propose amendments?

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 04:31:04 PM EST
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But that is under the International Convention on the Law of Treaties, not under its own rules.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:00:49 PM EST
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So if the International Convention on the Law of Treaties was copy-pasted into the treaties as how the treaties change, would it then be a constitution?

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:03:10 PM EST
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LOL

Another point is that the current arrangement doesn't recognise a single European sovereign entity (the "people of Europe") but rather a number of sovereign entities entering into an agreement.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:07:32 PM EST
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Je je je.

I was writing the same point below.. je je je

A pleasure

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by kcurie on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:21:06 PM EST
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I think we're ready for a game of Nomic.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:25:56 PM EST
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Would the US be an international organisation if only an assembly of State Governors could propose amendments?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 at 05:24:41 PM EST
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By my definition below it could be.

When I wrote the comment about the senate I assumed that the early senate was an assembly appointed by the State Governors. However, I have been unable to find how the early (pre-election) senators were appointed, so if anyone has a link...?

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Nov 4th, 2009 at 05:38:16 AM EST
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