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England face USA in kind World Cup draw - International, Football - The Independent

England will open their quest to lift the World Cup by tackling the United States in Rustenburg on Saturday, June 12.

Fabio Capello could not have hoped for much better from a group that will also see the Three Lions tackle Algeria and Slovenia in Group C.

Any clash with the United States is bound to revive memories of that shock defeat during the 1950 tournament in Brazil.



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by DoDo on Fri Dec 4th, 2009 at 02:28:02 PM EST
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England face USA in kind World Cup draw - International, Football - The Independent

2010 WORLD CUP DRAW:

Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

Group B: Argentina, South Korea, Nigeria, Greece

Group C: England, USA, Algeria, Slovenia

Group D: Germany, Australia, Ghana, Serbia

Group E: Netherlands, Japan, Cameroon, Denmark

Group F: Italy, New Zealand, Paraguay, Slovakia

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal

Group H: Spain, Honduras, Chile, Switzerland



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 4th, 2009 at 02:28:34 PM EST
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No real 'group of death' here, I think. Argentina's group looks very competitive. Germany's does on paper but I expect the Germans to win them all. Same for the Brazil and Spain groups. Going to be hard on Portugal and Serbia.

From the Dutch perspective, the advantage is that if we win the group, we play against the #2 from Italy's group (Paraguay) which should mean we're in the quarter finals. Those Italians lucked out. The French, lucky considering the pot they were in, but I wouldn't underestimate Mexico and Uruguay.

Nate Silver, who's got his own index, did some number crunching which to some extent confirms my expectations.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Dec 4th, 2009 at 08:29:04 PM EST
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Ive been saying that one of these times Mexico is going to blow everyone away in a major competitiion. And this is the time, I've decided.

 You heard it here first.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 4th, 2009 at 09:25:52 PM EST
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I'm surprised that Nate Silver fancies Uruguay so much.

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by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Dec 5th, 2009 at 03:59:33 AM EST
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Nate's got Uruguay ranked at #10, which is a lot higher than their FIFA ranking. But even there they're ranked as #19.

They don't have a lot of depth in their team, but you're playing them for the first game. They're going to be dangerous.

Also, remember the last time an underperforming French team drew the host...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Dec 5th, 2009 at 06:29:01 AM EST
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"They don't have a lot of depth in their team, but you're playing them for the first game."

Unlikely.
I don't reckon I'll be picked.

As far as I'm concerned, they're playing them. And indeed France may well struggle -they do have the worst coach in the world.

"Also, remember the last time an underperforming French team drew the host..."

When was that?

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Dec 5th, 2009 at 06:44:28 AM EST
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Heh, I'm used to employing nationalistic shorthands for football teams. It's what makes the European and World Cups interesting! If I'd only care about the quality of the playing I'd prefer the champions league.

As for the 'last time', I got my facts mixed up.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Dec 5th, 2009 at 09:14:50 AM EST
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