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The fact is that more Americans (as a percentage of the relevant population) say they are Christians first and Americans second than French people say they are Muslim first, and French second.
By definition, since nobody ever asks French people whether they are Muslim, according to you.

Do you have statistics about the number of people who claim to be Christian first and American second?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 11:36:14 AM EST
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Poll: For Christians' identity, it's faith first, U.S. second - CNN.com

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that of the 750 Christians in the survey, 59 percent identify themselves first by their faith, then as Americans, while 36 percent described themselves in the reverse.

CNN's findings are not that different from those in a recent Pew Research Center poll on Muslim-American attitudes. In that poll, 47 percent of Muslims in America say they are Muslim first, American second. Younger Muslims were especially likely to feel that way: 60 percent of them responded they were Muslim first.

CNN's research also found that Americans are now less likely to see the possibility for peace between Islam and Christianity. Of the total 1,029 adult Americans polled, 53 percent say conflict is inevitable between the two religions, up from 45 percent in 2003.



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 11:42:32 AM EST
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Report from 2007. Kudos to Migeru for the post.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 03:35:52 PM EST
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I just can't dig them up, and it's not by lack of trying. It was a Pew center or equivalent multi-country poll. I'll find it eventually.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 04:28:44 AM EST
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One million American Muslims are Muslims first, Americans second - Jihad Watch
Today I intend, as much as time permits, to highlight a few of the findings from the Pew Research Center poll of American Muslims. Here is the first: 47% of what Pew says are 2.35 million Muslims in America, or a little more than one million Muslims, consider themselves to be Muslims first, Americans second. The other bars in the graph above show that to be a much lower percentage than in Britain, Germany, and Spain: 81% of Muslims in Britain consider themselves to be Muslims first; 66% in Germany, and 69% in Spain. In France, as under fire as it is for not assimilating its Muslim immigrants (although they have resisted assimilation at every step), it's 46%.
The link is to the Pew study (PDF) - excuse the jihadwatch sourcing but that's what google spits out.

Interesting that a report called "American Muslims: Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream" is spun by some people as showing that American Muslims are scary.

But the really interesting thing is the CNN poll showing that American Christians are more likely than Muslims to identify with their religious community first.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 04:56:42 AM EST
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How well are French Muslims integrated? Pretty well by Jerome a Paris on August 25th, 2006

Apparently "French Muslims" do exist.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 05:06:03 AM EST
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Since you keep on ignoring my point I'll just shut up.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 07:29:13 AM EST
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