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And with how many other available statistics in other countries?

I don't understand this assumption that there are easily-available, reliable, and comparable statistics for everywhere but France, where it's supposedly forbidden to study religion in society.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 04:23:42 PM EST
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There is the Eurobarometer 66 (2006) which includes the items:
THE PLACE OF RELIGION IN SOCIETY
ATTITUDES TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALITY
THE CONTRIBUTION OF IMMIGRANTS TO SOCIETY
and the Eurobarometer 42 (1995) which includes a section on religious beliefs.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 04:48:54 PM EST
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I never wrote that, nor assumed it.

The question I posed: can secularisation be tracked in a country where religious groups are not registered, and if so, how could it?

It's an interesting puzzle, and I hoped to learn more about France through it. I don't have the feeling I'm getting anything out of this, though.

by Nomad on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 05:26:00 PM EST
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The question I posed: can secularisation be tracked in a country where religious groups are not registered, and if so, how could it?

Sure.  The NZ Census for example asks "what religion do you identify as" and provides a checklist (including "no religion" and "object to state").  And from that simple question, asked over decades, the trend of secularisation in New Zealand is very clear.

Of course, that requires the government to ask about religion, which e.g. the French would object to.  But if they won't, there's nothing stopping a private entity, such as a university social science department, from asking a similar question, or one including a question on whether someone attended a service in the last week.  They'd need a few thousand respondents to get good subsample sizes, but that's not beyond them.  And I'd be surprised if someone isn't doing it...

by IdiotSavant on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 09:57:51 PM EST
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Well, in France, non-state affiliated social sciences lab in private universities are very few and far between...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 at 02:27:05 AM EST
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